On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:38:05 +0000 jaquilina <jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> said:

> Hi guys this is something I can contribute to in terms of website. and I 
> can even host it if you all so desire. Question is do you want this 
> built off a framework, such as wordpress where it will be easy to 
> include a forums section or something custom built?

We don't need hosting. We have that. We have a framework: Dokuwiki. Our content
depends on it and its markdown. It also has discussion forums too. They are
activated on several pages.

This discussion is really about styling and maybe layout.

> On 2017-11-16 22:26, Stephen Houston wrote:
> > +1 I've been saying we need a new website bad. And one that is sleek,
> > modern, and yes white.  Time to look up to date and kept with the 
> > times.
> > You will notice nearly every major linux distribution and nearly all 
> > major
> > linux software websites are in the confines of what you describe. 
> > Simple,
> > flat, white background and black text, sharp but small images that are
> > mostly subtle, and responsive design to look good across devices. The
> > reason being that this is proven to be the easiest on the eyes and the 
> > most
> > pleasing to the reader as you said.
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 3:58 PM Cedric Bail <ced...@ddlm.me> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> As some of you may have noticed we are doing some improvement to our
> >> documentation and trying to get things easier when starting with EFL. 
> >> One
> >> of the main issue we are facing is that our website is definitively 
> >> hard to
> >> read for a lot of people. So Paul went on trying to figure out why.
> >> 
> >> The first problem is actually the constrast ratio between background 
> >> and
> >> text. According to W3C accessibility guidelines (
> >> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#contrast-minimum )it should be 4.5:1 at
> >> least. Our colors are #818181 for the text and #303030 which give a
> >> contrast ratio of 3.39:1 ( 
> >> https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/
> >> ). And it is worth for people with vision impairment where it should 
> >> be 7:1.
> >> 
> >> Black on white or white on black would work, but according to some 
> >> random
> >> person on Internet (could not find a scientific evidence/citation of 
> >> it) a
> >> white background force your pupils to contracts, making it easier to 
> >> focus
> >> your eye with a smaller pupil (much like the depth of field is 
> >> increased
> >> with a smaller camera lens). This could be shown by a test carried on 
> >> 136
> >> subject, where the people reading black text on a white background 
> >> scored
> >> better than any other combination of colors (
> >> http://lite.mst.edu/media/research/ctel/documents/LITE-2003-04.pdf ).
> >> 
> >> The second problem are our links that are difficult to tell wether 
> >> they
> >> have been clicked on or not. Also they have a slight glow around the 
> >> links
> >> that makes them harder to read. The best link on the subject we can 
> >> point
> >> to would be
> >> https://www.nngroup.com/articles/guidelines-for-visualizing-links/ .
> >> 
> >> So it would be best to come up with a more accessible design for our 
> >> web
> >> site. If someone want to suggest a new design within those constraint, 
> >> it
> >> would be great, but I would suggest to look at
> >> https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/ or at 
> >> http://doc.qt.io/
> >> . They are simple and work well in term of readability. We could 
> >> easily go
> >> with something like that. What do you think ?
> >> 
> >> Cedric
> >> 
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