On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:26:01 +0000 Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com> said:
> +1 I've been saying we need a new website bad. And one that is sleek, > modern, and yes white. Time to look up to date and kept with the times. > You will notice nearly every major linux distribution and nearly all major > linux software websites are in the confines of what you describe. Simple, > flat, white background and black text, sharp but small images that are > mostly subtle, and responsive design to look good across devices. The > reason being that this is proven to be the easiest on the eyes and the most > pleasing to the reader as you said. Our design is responsive. It actually was based off bootstrap. Tried reading e.org on a phone or tablet as well as a PC? It works well. There is no need to mess with that I think. Contrast ratio is up for discussion. Links could change color too. Move to #a0a0a0 for text and done (5:1). Change links a bit. Saying "We must be black on white bg" I wholly disagree with. This is part of an identity and that is what our default theme is for our software. Might I point out Windows 10 is light text on dark bg too by default? Visual studio code is too. So is Atom, So is Photoshop and Lightroom ... It's a choice. An artistic and design choice. I made the choice to not look the same and to stand out. Being the same as everyone else is simply not the identity of Enlightenment. It was not created for that nor does it bear that philosophy. Dark backgrounds are common enough and still being done by professionals and winning awards, and they stand out because they are not "just like everyone else". See: https://www.awwwards.com/ https://www.awwwards.com/websites/ Examples: http://beta.wind-and-words.com/ https://www.mirandajoan.com/home http://www.mirrorconf.com/ https://envylabs.com/ https://www.dowhatyoucant.at/ (combo light/dark + dark/light) http://2017.tdsgn.ru/ http://www.thegreat.agency/ http://www.arcys.fr/ http://www.karipidi.gr/ (combo) https://www.artistsweb.com/ (combo) Go find all the sites that are not a white bg, dark text (are dark bg and light text). This has nothing to do with being modern or "keeping up with the times". Professional design studios TODAY often enough choose light on dark. Please don't confuse a design choice of color scheme with "keeping with the times". P.S. I also would argue a big region of blaring white is NOT easy on the eyes. it strains them. Like staring into a light bulb. It certainly does for me. > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 3:58 PM Cedric Bail <ced...@ddlm.me> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > As some of you may have noticed we are doing some improvement to our > > documentation and trying to get things easier when starting with EFL. One > > of the main issue we are facing is that our website is definitively hard to > > read for a lot of people. So Paul went on trying to figure out why. > > > > The first problem is actually the constrast ratio between background and > > text. According to W3C accessibility guidelines ( > > https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#contrast-minimum )it should be 4.5:1 at > > least. Our colors are #818181 for the text and #303030 which give a > > contrast ratio of 3.39:1 ( https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/ > > ). And it is worth for people with vision impairment where it should be 7:1. > > > > Black on white or white on black would work, but according to some random > > person on Internet (could not find a scientific evidence/citation of it) a > > white background force your pupils to contracts, making it easier to focus > > your eye with a smaller pupil (much like the depth of field is increased > > with a smaller camera lens). This could be shown by a test carried on 136 > > subject, where the people reading black text on a white background scored > > better than any other combination of colors ( > > http://lite.mst.edu/media/research/ctel/documents/LITE-2003-04.pdf ). > > > > The second problem are our links that are difficult to tell wether they > > have been clicked on or not. Also they have a slight glow around the links > > that makes them harder to read. The best link on the subject we can point > > to would be > > https://www.nngroup.com/articles/guidelines-for-visualizing-links/ . > > > > So it would be best to come up with a more accessible design for our web > > site. If someone want to suggest a new design within those constraint, it > > would be great, but I would suggest to look at > > https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/ or at http://doc.qt.io/ > > . They are simple and work well in term of readability. We could easily go > > with something like that. 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