On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 07:05:28 +0100
Pierre Couderc <pie...@couderc.eu> wrote:

> I am glad to have developed my first application under efl (eegrep = 
> multidimensional grep).
> With legacy API.
> Should I regret not having used Gnome ?

Not at all, stuff like the following is wonderful!  New one today....
https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/ecrire/issues

Not to mention the treatment for new people learning to develop apps
wit EFL. Rather than help just see rudeness, kicked from IRC, and
eventually banned from phab... Basically made it as far as I have
figuring everything out on my own. I cannot thank a single person
surely not for anything that was not trivial. I do have major regrets
in my choice of tech NOT my conduct. That is easy to justify...

I bet I can use GTK apps I developed years ago ~06 with little change
for GTK2 maybe even GTK3. I have little to no confidence a EFL app will
work without major issues or changes some 10+ year later. There are
numerous issues and more showing up within my first year of EFL. Given
its been in development for who knows how long for E. Which EFL changes
seem to be blowing up E. I cannot even use E22 anymore on my desktop.

Also for what ever reason Pinentry was released without the EFL
interface. Despite 2 new ones going in within the last year, FLTK and
TQT in addition to QT and GTK ones.
https://dev.gnupg.org/T3279#106938
https://github.com/gpg/pinentry

I never got an answer why EFL was left out. I can only assume issues
with EFL in what ever distro. Not conduct as I had regular
communication on list. I thought it was committed when advising TQT
author on some submissions on list... For what ever reason others have
no interest in EFL. I withdrew my submission. Mike can proceed with his
and wait another year or what ever. I have it for my needs. I care less
if others have a EFL interface to Pinentry. Seems that is how most feel.

I think the grab aspect did not help. Given that is not possible with
Wayland and I was told for Ecrire and other things here not to bind EFL
apps to ecore_x. Likely should have ignored EFL devs and just done what
was needed to make gnupg devs happy.

Just another example. I see nothing being done to help EFL application
developers nor EFL application development. My experience has been
worse than having healthy adult teeth pulled for no reason. Any
discussions I find some what laughable. As most have been directly
responsible for giving me a hard miserable time in my first year around
EFL. Not to mention all EFL developers. Not sure I have come across
anyone else like me just doing EFL app development who is NOT a E or
EFL developer furthering EFL. Lots of people patting each other on the
back. Not receptive to feedback or criticism from others who are not
part of the group.

None the less since I am insane I continue on, I have not jumped
shipped yet... Despite miss-treatment and how I am portrayed.

-- 
William L. Thomson Jr.

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