On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:57:56 +0000 jaquilina <jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> said:

it came through. i just replied. :)

> Not sure if my reply from earlier today made it to the list as I then 
> got an email shortly after saying my address had been suspended from the 
> list,
> God SF is a POS, but i digress there with that little rant.
> 
> I am more then eager and willing to put together an enlightenment spin 
> on fedora 27 with binary packages in a custom repository that anyone 
> could connect to as needed. I would base it off master branch given that 
> fedora is the more bleeding side of RHEL and centos are based off of it.
> 
> On 2018-03-07 15:52, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 14:56:13 +0900
> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> last i checked bodhi wanted to fork e because they didn't want to
> >> update themes for compositing+wayland support (and e18 and on got
> >> more overhead as more objects were in the canvas - this should have
> >> been fixed by objects in buffers in evas but hasn't been to date) and
> >> voted to fork instead.
> >> 
> >> last i knew elive was on an ancient version of e.
> > 
> > Ideally at some point the communities find some way to re-unite and
> > combine efforts. That maybe more utopian than realistic.
> > 
> >> when i am thinking a distro i am thinking something that is up to
> >> date. probably 2 versions - last stable release one and a "bleeding
> >> edge" one from git to show off new things.
> > 
> > Not all distros are that up to date. Example I cannot find a deb for
> > Debian or Ubuntu for newer libcheck/check. They still use 0.10.0...
> > https://github.com/libcheck/check/releases
> > 
> > I may have missed something but could not find one in ppa etc. For EFL
> > I already have to use ppa stuff on Ubuntu in Travis.
> > 
> >> > If not using either of those, I could likely help with one based on
> >> > Gentoo. Either livecd or stage 4 base system, etc.
> >> 
> >> a distro where people have to wait for everything to compile... i'm
> >> not a fan of.
> > 
> > The other choice is to wait for others to package stuff in binary
> > format. Some distros are better than others. But who says it has to
> > remain that way? Ever checked out Sabayon? A binary distro built on
> > Gentoo.
> > https://www.sabayon.org/
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabayon_Linux
> > 
> >> :( i think for gentoo having the gentoo emerge package
> >> builds up to date and clean and tidy and well done is probably the
> >> right thing. when i say "distro" i mean something that out of the box
> >> just works. boots right into e. working desktop etc. etc. ... and if
> >> they want to install more they don't have to wait for compiles. quick
> >> package download+install and presto.
> > 
> > That is Sabayon philosophy as well, "out of the box".
> > 
> >> > I have all sorts of E stuff in my overlay, updated eclass, sets,
> >> > etc. I already have a custom profile based on E, and could make
> >> > others.
> >> > https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/blob/master/eclass/e.eclass
> >> > https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/blob/master/sets/e-desktop
> >> > https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/blob/master/sets/e-desktop-dev
> >> > https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/blob/master/profiles/linux/amd64/workstation/packages
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > P.S.
> >> > One reason I feel Gentoo and E/EFL are good for each other. Gentoo
> >> > preffixes most everything with the letter e...
> >> 
> >> hahahah!
> >> 
> >> despite all of that. i don't think its a good experience for users if
> >> they just want to try something out. :) i think gentoo is fine for
> >> the kind of people who want precisely what it provides. that is not
> >> imho the average user wanting an out-of-the-box experience. if those
> >> were the users to address then a wiki page on how to compile and
> >> configure an os for e is enough... that;'s not really what i think we
> >> need though.
> > 
> > I think your thinking of Gentoo as it is now, rather than a foundation
> > to build what you want on top. Who says a E distro based on Gentoo
> > would required compiling? E could easily compile stuff and setup a
> > binhost etc. Lots of options if you think creatively.
> > 
> > Plus you will want to build stuff to offer options. Otherwise you
> > either ship with all the lights/bells and whistles turned on, or you
> > choose for people. There are various compile time options for both EFL
> > and E. Thus either need to provide different binaries for each combo or
> > choose for people, which may exclude others.
> > 
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