On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:17 AM Stefan Schmidt
<ste...@datenfreihafen.org> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> On 22.04.19 04:32, Simon Lees wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 17/04/2019 22:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 08:19:35 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz
> >> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> We are currently in the 1.23 release cycle, and it seems agreed upon
> >>> that
> >>> we are planning to remove autotools prior to the 1.23 release.
> >>> Overall, the
> >>> meson build is in reasonable shape--there are some small issues on
> >>> our main
> >>> platforms (and larger ones for Windows)--and it should not be an
> >>> issue to
> >>> meet this goal.
> >>
> >> i thought meson was in better shape...
> >>
> >>> With this in mind, I would like to propose a freeze on the autotools
> >>> build
> >>> starting Friday. This means that we no longer modify the autotools
> >>> build in
> >>> any way in the master branch (excepting outstanding patches in phab),
> >>> and
> >>> instead focus entirely on ensuring the quality of the meson build
> >>> system.
> >>
> >> i think we should push this off a few more weeks/month or 2.
> >>
> >>> There is not much action which would need to be taken for this:
> >>> * stop patching build files
> >>> * disable CI jobs for autotools
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I think this would help to streamline build system development and
> >>> reduce
> >>> overhead for this release.
> >>
> >> i agree on this - but the autofoo needs to still work and be up to
> >> date until
> >> the point where meson is equivalent - the windows work is one ware it
> >> needs to
> >> catch up on for sure as well as some other niggles. get all of these
> >> up to
> >> snuff and... yup. drop autotools.
> >>
> >
> > Meson also doesn't work on some of the longer term distros that only
> > ship Meson 0.46 (while e does), at least from the last time I tried it.
>
> When you say some you mean only OpenSuSe or also other longer term
> distros? I am not the biggest fan either of having to use newish
> releases of build tools but meson develops more rapidly and we actually
> did fixes on meson itself to build efl ( as well as gaining the needed
> performance).
>
> We also need to see this in some context. Meson 0.46 was released on
> 23.04.2018, which makes it a full year old by now. There actually is a
> 0.50 release now. We are not just using the latest of meson here, we use
> what we need to have efl building sanely for us.
>
> If I look around at other long term distro releases I can see this:
> - Debian stable has a recent backport
> - Ubuntu 18.04 (LTS) does ship 0.45.1 and I can't find a backport -> problem
> - Fedora has 0.47.2 back to fedora 28 and Fedora EPAL 7
> - OpenSuse Leap 15.0 actually offers 0.46.0 while Leap 42.3 is still on
> 0.40.1
>
> To mean that means I would like to know if you consider Leap 42.3 an
> important target for an upcoming EFL release (does it actually have all
> the other deps fr such a new release?). Also we need to find out if
> there are backports of meson >= 0.46 for Ubuntu 18.04 which I have not
> found.

meson is installed throughpython, no ? 'pip3 install --upgrade meson'
should upgrade to latest meson on all distro no?

Vincent


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