On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 11:00:28 +0930 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> said: > > > On 9/5/22 19:49, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 11:16:03 +0200 Andreas Volz <li...@brachttal.net> said: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> just a question if there is a Discord[1] Server for Enlightenment Users > >> & Developers? What is your opinion about to create one? > > > > Why not just use matrix? Have you tried it? If you want a "modern works on > > mobile apps and works in a web browser" kind of chat experience, matrix > > provides that - e.g. use element.io to access matrix and the #e channel ... > > which is the same as the libera #e irc channel. What is it about discord > > that is specifically better than Matrix+Element in this case? > > 1. I can reset the password for my account (I've been locked out of > matrix for years because the password reset simply doesn't work for me).
create new account? > 2. There is a tonne of people who are already there and using it for > other communities (as with irc), in the openSUSE community we ended up > with a Discord community because a bunch of users who were already there > created one then later it became official. there is no discord community of e users i know about. the idea of running discord all day as it's a full electron app is almost offensive so it'd have to be worth it for a benefit. discord shines for things like gaming where you want to stay on a shared voice channel with your headset while playing the game and with people who play regularly able to share chats when off-game. for e? i don't see it being a strong point of discord unless there is a community there already. matrix does handle the "modern, mobile" etc. solution while not forcing it on everyone and being elegant and clean unlike protocol bots. > > I agree - modern tools are good. Matrix + element provide that AND provide a > > link back to old IRC. It means the channel is not owned by some company that > > might change policies in future. > > In the openSUSE case we also have a bot running in Discord that bridges > the chat between Matrix and Discord, in some but not all cases for > openSUSE this also feeds into irc. So for me the people rather then the > tools are why i'd go for Discord over Matrix, as long as nothing long > term important lives there if things change you can just tell people > your leaving / moving if terms change. so i ask - what people? how many are already on discord and not using irc or matrix for whom a discord presence would be useful (for e)? the bot solutions are horrible unless integrated into the irc (or matrix) serve. you end up with everyone being some name of a bot like: <P64ProtocolBot> [M] <gischpelino> try to flash recovery firmware <P64ProtocolBot> [M] <gischpelino> <P64ProtocolBot> [T] <Tyler> maemo? is under drovak in the list?... so everyone is the bot ... matrix and irc to integrate properly. telegram, discord do not. at least what i have seen. i actually actively avoid responding to those channels i'm on and am considering dropping them as i can't tab-complete a nick due to this. if there was clean integration like matrix and irc (libera) then that'd be a solution to keep everyone happy. but i'm a bit loathe to spend days of my life setting this up - if it did exist (i know how this goes - it will take days), if there is no one there to use it. matrix + irc are right now a solved problem. (well minus your account reset issue... :)) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
