On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:31:57PM +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Simon writes: > > > Actually, I see no real point in coding with Etk/Ewl an aplication > > that already exists with Gtk or Qt. It would "only" offer more > > consistency with an E desktop, and some eye-candy effects but it's > > If no 'existing' gtk/qt apps are ever written with ewl/etk, > then there never going to be any image viewer apps, any text editors, > or any of the other 20,000+ apps that exist -- you're going to have > to think real hard to make up a 'brand new' kind of app that no one > has ever done before in gtk/qt, just to make it 'worth' doing in > e's toolkits?? > > > quite a waste of time imho. We should try to think differently, > > because we have tools (Edje/Evas) that allow us to do things >
I think the sentiment he's trying to get across, which is one I share, is that there is little point in rewriting a gtk/kde app in an e widget set if it looks and functions exactly the same. E.g. using emphasis (or whatever the glade lib is) with a gnome app's glade file is a lot of effort (recreating the backend functionality) with the only gain being glinty buttons. The point is NOT that we can't use new, innovate image viewers, text editors, etc. But, we need to sit and think about how we can improve on the current 'desktop app' idioms. Elicit is a simple enough application that it can have its gui entirely defined in edje. I've thought several times about breaking some of its layout out into some smart objects (e.g. the a simple notebook smartobj). However, this would severly dampen what is possible from the theming standpoint. Tokyo has done some amazing versions of pared down single panel (no tabs) themes for elicit. You'll also notice that elicit has no proper configuration dialogs. So, if a theme doesn't provide a theme selector, then you can't switch themes. For small apps like this, this is an arena where traditional packed widgets fit in. Many larger apps (image viewers, music players, etc) could probably be done in a similar fashion. E.g. a free form edje ui for the primary functionality, with a packed widget set for dialogs. But, it really depends on the app in question (and the imagination of the author). rephorm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
