On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:21:33 +0100, Laurent Ghigonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:10:33 +0100, > Simon TRENY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > > There is something I'd like to discuss here although I'm not sure > > it's really the right place to do so.. Since Etk and Ewl have begun > > to be usable enough, there has been a lot of new apps using one of > > these too. The thing is, too often those apps only copy existing > > apps and I just don't think this the right way. A lot of these apps > > would have been a lot better if they hadn't used a toolkit but if > > they had used directly Edje (and using Etk/Ewl only for the config > > dialogs). For example, if we want to have a nice, original and > > innovative image viewer, I really think its main interface should > > be directly coded with Edje (like what entice did but in a more > > complete way). Same thing for a filemanager, for an audio/video > > player or for an IM client... > > > > Toolkits are nice for config dialogs or for apps that need to offer > > a lot of control. If we really want to have a nice and innovative > > Enlightenment desktop environment, we should be different from the > > other desktop environments. We should have apps with a really nice > > and well-designed interface, and most of the time, this is just not > > possible with a toolkit. Elicit is a good example of an innovative > > application that blows your mind away when you first launch it. If > > it were using Etk or Ewl, it would just have been a common > > application. > > Hi, > > I agree with you that edje is a very powerful tool to create > applications, and we should use it to create innovative user > interfaces like in elicit or rage. > > But what about consistency between applications ? > Do you have ideas how to maintain some king of consistency between > apps, when creating you're own edje interfaces, or when using custom > widgets in toolkits ? > For example sharing color classes ... I agree, the biggest problem with Edje is the consistency issues: different looks, different behaviors... A glade-like tool could greatly help on this point I think. > > A tool like Glade, that would allow us to build interfaces made of > Edje objects and Etk (or Ewl) widgets may be a part of the solution, > but i believe it should be done at library level, not in a gui creator > tool. What do you mean by "at library level"? There will indeed be functions to load the interface (in Etk, in Enhance, or in another lib, I don't know yet) but we'll still need a tool to build the interface (the tool will be used to assemble Edje objects and widgets/containers). Simon > > Just my thoughts =) > > > laurent > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and > earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel > mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
