Hisham Mardam Bey wrote: > Hello gang, > > I'm sure some of you have (passively) read some of the discussions > that are occurring on #edevelop from time to time regarding the > direction this project is taking. I am mainly talking about E17, the > window manager, and not the entire EFL. > > The main discussion was centered about how we're developing E17 and > where its going. We now have two places where we keep TODO items and > bugs, the TODO file in apps/e, and bugzilla.
Well, imo, this is just silly to have things in two places. From what I have noticed so far, not too many people are actually using the bugzilla for e17. Users appear to be entering bugs there, but noone appears to be paying much attention to it. I do what I can there...fixing things, sorting invalid bugs vs legit ones, but alas I am only one person with a set amount of time available and would rather not be spending it mucking with bugzilla. The way things are going, > we have several "open" features in E17 that are partially done, some > major, some minor. Among those features are EFM, and the First Time > Run Wizard (FTRW). > > EFM was supposed to be a simple file selector, it then grew into a > file manager, it then started getting custom directory and window > configuration abilities, and then grew so big it needed its own > process. As it stands, none of its features are 100% complete and > almost without bugs, except the file selector. The file selector is a > core part of E17 (for obvious reasons), but the file manager is really > not. I would classify it as a nice to have feature, along with desktop > icons, but its nothing major that can prevent a release from > happening. > I would tend to agree here. Granted, having a native filemanager for e17 would be nice, but given E's modular nature this could easily come later. > The FTRW is a useful feature to have that has also been started and > has not seen completion yet. It was always on the TODO, but it sprung > out of no where at a certain point in time during the EFM development > cycle. Although its a nice and very useful feature, and I think it > would be a good idea to have it available when we have a release, its > taken development time from EFM and other incomplete features in E, > and is currently not finished. Yet another incomplete and relatively > big feature. Again, I tend to agree with this. A "nice to have" & potentially "neat" thing for first time users. > > Some other items in the TODO are considered medium sized tasks, and > the majority can be considered small tasks. I don't know about the > state of things in bugzilla, but we can assume the same as with the > TODO. Fairly accurate. Bugzilla may have one or two other "issues" that are not on TODO list, but again, it really is just a dup of TODO. > > So the main question I have for everyone is, what now? We're writing > code, time is passing, and we're not closing (or barely closing) any > of the items on the TODO. New features that are not always planned > make their way every now and then, and we're never substantially > closer to a release or a release candidate. What do you folks propose > we do to handle this problem? Should we freeze the addition of new > items to E17 (similar to the freeze done a while back) and concentrate > on closing all the TODO items and the bugs? Personally, I am suprised this *hasn't* happened yet :) Whatever decision we make, > we need to do something about the way E17 is being developed, and the > pace at which it is being developed at. > Indeed. Anyone know of a way to cat /more/time >> /devs ?? :) dh ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
