On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:59:13 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:39:20 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]>
> said:
> 
> > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:05:12 +1000 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 11:16:33 +0530 Laxminarayan Kamath
> > > <[email protected]> said:
> > > 
> > > > So why not have a real fullscreen (the way apps want it) and
> > > > fake full screen(the way users like David Seikel want it)? That
> > > > should keep both
> > > 
> > > david's is already covered by: 1. borderless, 1 + maximized
> > > (fullscreen mazimize). the app fullscreen is the "fullscreen" u
> > > see in the e menus and the netwm fullscrene protocol. e17 doesnt
> > > totally handle it right atm - its not "restricted" enough.
> > 
> > So, what's wrong with letting the user decide they WANT to override
> > an apps choice about restricting the user?  It's my computer, I want
> > control.  Two options - "fullscreen the way nazi programmers that
> > want to take over your computer want it", and "fullscreen with full
> > user control".  Oops, I invoked Godwin's law early.  lol
> 
> because we dont even get one way right. not even one works properly.
> not goingto go add options and logic until at least one mode works
> properly. other than the fact that max+borderless do what u want.
> here is no need to have another mode.

That's fair enough then, so long as faking it with borderless maximised
windows works.  I have not complained for the years that it did work.
B-)

> > I'll say for a third time, my desires used to be covered by
> > borderless maximised windows, but it's broken now.
> 
> works for me. window is without border, the full sie of the screen,
> yet it stackable and otherwise able to be manipulated as a normal
> window - as you said you desired. keybindings, alt-tab, desktop
> flipping etc. continue to work.

See my other email about which apps do not work for me.  

What is alt-tab supposed to be bound to?  I could not figure that out,
though I saw it in the bindings, but it showed nothing in the right
column when I clicked on it.  Something went wrong there.

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