On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:33:38 -0300 Eduardo Felipe <eduardofelip...@gmail.com> said:
> > this is a fundamental issue with lua upstream. they simply don't want to > > join the modern world. if you want to use lua upstream directly-as-is... > > you will continue to have such problems. i know i'm in no mood to work > > around such silliness. ALL they need to do is provide a .pc file - a single > > tiny text file. the work has already been done for them by several linux > > distributions. it gets patched to provide this file and to also build > > shared libraries (.so's vs .a's). > > as such my suggestion is to find and adopt the patches applied by linux > > distributions to your lua install. sanity will then be restored. > > What about adding the lua source as a single file in Edje? It's pretty "hell no". :) this is the kind of mess i dont want to have. > common for projects to do that, since Edje is not supposed to run > arbitrary Lua scripts, why bother having that as a dependency? they may do it... efl standards are higher than that :) > By design Lua is an embeddable language/runtime. A trimmed version > without some libs that aren't enabled can be around 90k. Edje itself > weights around 600k on my system. > > Again, just a thought. They are not "refusing to join the modern > world". It's you that are choosing not to follow their guidelines and > embed lua ;) they are refusing - every distro i see patches lua. if you have 20 apps/libs on your system all use the same lua - you have 20 copies of it. if it has a bug all 20 need rebuilding and updating. i know it's their guidelines. the guidelines are misguided. if i want it statically compiled into my app/lib - i have a choice. if i want to share the same implementation with everyone else on the system and get bug and security fixes for free with no further effort on my part, i can link dynamically to the .so. the modern world on linux uses .pc files to indicate how to link and compile with a given shared lib - even if it doesnt provide a .so - distros often rename liblua so u can get a specific version. lua 4.0 is incompatible with 5.1 for example - i need to specifically chose the lua i am compatible with (ad otherwise code will break) so it may become -lliba51 or -llua or -llua-5.1 or -llua-51.... the .pc tells you what they did and what directory it's in (the -L) and adds the include flags (-I) etc. without having to go through a whole lot of guessing. it's a tiny text file - so any claims of "my god an extra file will bloat the distribution" are just wrong. it is harmless and useful. it's a modern mechanism. lua doesn't provide it. it actually seems to refuse to do it. it's not a matter of "we just havent gotten to it, or had the time etc.". :) > []s > > Eduardo. > > >> As it turns out, other packages for e17 that I compile after EDJE run > >> into similar problems. In order to compile Elementary I had to > >> manually set ELEMENTARY_CFLAGS and ELEMENTARY_LIBS and manually add - > >> llua. > >> > >> I seem to be on my way to success for installing e17, but standard > >> usage of "configure, make, sudo make install" don't work with anything > >> that has a Lua dependency. > >> > >> -Dave > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > >> Try the new software tools for yourself. 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