On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:41:39 +0000 Michael Blumenkrantz <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
> I like the look of the clock, but, in fairness, the "background" numbers > could be a little less obtrusive / more transparent. i tried many various levels of transparency for the "darkened" (inactive) numbers and in the end this one is what looked closest to the origial and kept things readable as well. i literally can glance at the clock and see the time in a tiny fraction of a second. the only way i can imagine you couldn't read it is if you make it really small, and then anything is becoming unreadable unless you go to great pains to make it so at that size, and then you pay the price at larger sizes of looking nasty, or you only just learned arabic numerals in the past few weeks and struggle to recognize the shapes (from having learned japanese and korean script, i know that fancy fonts make it very hard for me to determine what was written - basically because i'm not fluent in the scripts, but arabic numberals are universal, and a simple set of 10 shapes to know, not 1000's. blur, glow and colors dont hurt readability - just fancy fonts or "shape effects/modifications" hurt it). i fail to see what's "not readable" about it, unless your eyesight is totally shot, in which case there is not a lot that can be done other than making everything pure white and black and nothig in between as you can't see anyway... and make everything huge and fill the screen ... :) i just dont like how the "it's unreadable" line is pulled out so often. on the default sized shelf on even a high dpi display on a laptop at a decent distance it's nicely readable - i don't have to stare and "think about it" to read it. the clock here is cutting a line between usability and art. it's not totally "functon over form", or "form over function". it's trying to do both. i think it manages quite well, and i spent quite some hours to make it so. if someone wants to replace it - it'd better be more than just "i stuck the same blue text in sans-serif and made it images", and actually spend time on the form and art and look. also e has the ability to specifically choose a different theme for just the clock ... or many other elements. you can make the clock look like anything you like (that's why we have themes), and if it's preference, say so, but using the "it's unreadable" line is pretty much false. if you make the clock 5 pixels high, it'll be unreadable too. the design was to look good at the default size and also scale up and down a reasonable amount and still be usable. down to a 24 pixel sized shelf it's perfectly readable on this higher dpi screen. the default is 40 - it's massive at that size > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Rafael Antognolli > <antogno...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > wrote: > > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:03:52 +0200 "Alex-P. Natsios" < > > apnats...@gmail.com> said: > > > > > > massively worse than whats there. in the same way its also blurry and > > > unreadable too (using that term the same way). in addition, a serif font > > where > > > everything else is sans-serif in the theme? that's like walking around > > in a > > > pink suit with green shoes and expecting to be taken seriously in a > > business > > > meeting. :) > > > > > > the clock is mimicing a blue version of a "tube clock": > > > > > > http://assets.ilounge.com/images/uploads/nixie-tube-clock-1.jpg > > > http://gadgets.boingboing.net/filesroot/nixie-tube-clock.jpg > > > > > http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q146/atbglenn/Nixie%20Clock/MyNixieTubeClock.jpg > > > > > > as such it's a pretty good reproducion of such a thing as it was done by > > hand, > > > and its perfectly readable. people claiming it's not readable are the > > kind of > > > people who use that word to simply say "i dont like it" - it has nothing > > to do > > > with readability. you can read is just fine without any problems. > > > > It's as readable as a nixie tube clock from the first 2 pictures, thus > > not *that* readable :P > > > > But cool. Anyway, good job with the desk switch module :-) > > > > >> Greetings, > > >> > > >> Many people came crying in #e about the new dark digital clock and > > >> those unreasonal scribbles in the numbers back. > > >> > > >> It looks cool and artistic but it is hard to read :( making it > > >> unusable as a module (at least in its digital form). > > >> > > >> After a brief discussion about it cipher (Haris Antonatos) decided to > > >> give it a try and create an alternative set. > > >> > > >> I think of it as pretty neat and matching with the overall feel please > > >> have a look at it as a possibly viable replacement of the current > > >> digital look. > > >> > > >> http://postimage.org/gallery/f4doc1s/ > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Best Regards, > > >> > > >> Alex-P. Natsios > > >> (a.k.a Drakevr) > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > > >> web console. 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