On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:30:28 +0300 Markus Törnqvist <m...@nysv.org> said:

> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 08:16:47PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:08:48 +0300 Markus Törnqvist <m...@nysv.org> said:
> >
> 
> >> But what do you think about other mplayer-like shortcuts, mainly maybe
> >> o for on-screen display?
> >
> >umm why? if you move your mouse osd comes.. then goes away (if not in
> >audio-only mode) assuming your mouse is somehting you use. any key controls
> >to ff/rw etc. cause osd controls to appear too assuming you are controlling
> >things right now and want some status etc. ... i tried to make the default
> >out-of-the-box behavior as "obvious" as posssible to need as little manual
> >stuff like "turn osd on" as possible. it could be a "toggle osd forced to
> >stay on/off" but atm i fail to see a good reason. enlighten me?
> 
> I'm a heavy user of the keyboard, so messing with the pointer doesn't feel
> right. Especially not with keyboard-driven software like mplayer and maybe
> Rage.

almost everything is keyboard driven in rage. in fact osd appear/disappear is
the only thing not explicitly kbd controlled - its implicit in any action - eg
toggle loop mode, or pause/play or ff/rw etc. it comes on at any of these. i
guess an o for that would be something that could be added.

> The use-case for the OSD, for me, is that sometimes I just want to know for
> how long I've been watching something. Or how much is left. Forcing OSD on
> and off (ie hitting o twice) sounds like a good thing.
> 
> More generally the case for mplayer keys is that there's a lot of nice
> enough features, turning subtitles on and off, and I'm sure a lot of
> people know the mplayer keybindings already as there's nothing wrong with
> them.

subtitles right now have no controls at all beyond "you'll get them if there is
a matching .srt file or you add -sub file.srt on the cmdline". very basic atm.

> >> Having modifiers like ctrl for "other things" would allow ctrl-o to
> >> be an open file dialog maybe, instead of affecting the usual behavior.
> 
> >> Looking good tho!
> >
> >i didnt really see the point of an open file dialog... as u can dnd onto rage
> >from your fm... :) multiple files accepted. :)
> 
> Yeah, that was actually the first thing I did :D Like launch rage with no
> arguments, and dragging a video to it.

:) i made that work as i kind of knew someone would do this and thus i made it
function as you might expect. i also added it so you can dnd more and more into
rage over time to add to your current playlist. :)

> I get the point why you might not want an open file dialog but is that the
> general trend of EFL-driven apps? I appreciate software with an open file
> function that allows me to find the files by typing around and open in
> the current app.

the dnd makes uses of another app that is devoted to futzing about finding
files - the filemanager. but what you want there imho is not a file selector -
that's a poor mans version of that. you want something like evrything in e
built into your app - so you can navigate like a cmdline and find/play/see
things. that's a whole new ballgame inho where the app wants to customize and
define your view here - eg give you video thumbnails that actually play like
the playlist widget on the right... this is a whole project on its own imho.

> Binding something to open the e file manager and finding files and either
> having them associated with an app or manually open in an app achieves
> the same goal, though really differently ;)
> 
> -- 
> mjt
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