Hello.

On 08/07/16 03:37, David Seikel wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:18:55 +0200 Stefan Schmidt
> <ste...@osg.samsung.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>>
>> On 07/07/16 12:53, Simon Lees wrote:
>>> On 07/07/2016 06:08 PM, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nobody can be fooled here, we are late. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While the big merges of Elementary, Evas Generic Loaders and
>>>> emotion Generic Players went better that I expected we are running
>>>> out of time for interfaces.
>>>>
>>>> We delayed and hoped we would get in done and could still put it
>>>> into 1.18, but looking at it now that seems impossible, if we do
>>>> not want to delay even longer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So here is the new plan.
>>>>
>>>> o If you have some loose ends with a _realistic_ chance to get
>>>> fixed you have the next week for this.
>>>>
>>>> o We switch EO and all interfaces back into BETA, all new code
>>>> stays as is but is not officially released.
>>>>
>>>> o I will do the hard freeze and alpha release on Monday 18.07
>>>> (tentative date).
>>>>
>>>> o After that we try our normal 4 weeks stabilization window (my
>>>> glass ball is a bit dusty so I have a hard time to predict if 4
>>>> weeks are enough here)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any objections or comments?
>>>>
>>> The downside to this from my perspective is there are certain e21
>>> features that are using this api conditionally compiled out (I
>>> think the new gadget system), currently i'll be taking 1.18 into
>>> the next openSUSE release which means these features won't make it
>>> to e21 in that release so from that perspective for me if the
>>> release takes another month to get out right that would be better
>>> but if its going to take much more then that then it would be touch
>>> and go as to including it in the release anyway so if it will take
>>> longer then that additional month it may as well be done now.
>> OK, this is getting a bit confused. For everything wayland or drm
>> this should change nothing. These parts do not use eo and will stay
>> as they are right now for the release.
>> If parts are marked as beta aright now they would so for the release.
>> If they are public APIs they would also stay this way.
>>
>> For e21 doin a release now would actually help.
>>> The other thing to note is this week there seems to have been a lot
>>> of testing going on and fixes going in that along with the fact
>>> that most apps in existence arn't using the new api's anyway maybe
>>> with another tech preview in the next 2 weeks before the api's are
>>> finalised we could cut the stabilization window back to 3 weeks.
>> With promises not being settled we still have a long way to go before
>> the new APIs are in a stage where people would start using them in
>> their application widely.
> For what it's worth, my big experimental 3D world project tries to make
> use of a lot of this new EO API stuff.  It's a wide application that is
> not widely used, yet.  B-)
>

In which case this should not really be a big problem for you if we move 
these APIs to 1.19 to become public, right?

regards
Stefan Schmidt

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