Hello.

On 08/07/16 10:55, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
>
>
> On 08/07/16 04:20, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 10:38:25 +0200 Stefan Schmidt 
>> <ste...@osg.samsung.com> said:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nobody can be fooled here, we are late. :-)
>> yeah... but hey - we dont GUARANTEE release dates. having timelines for
>> development is 90%+ of the time wrong because someone asks "how long 
>> will it
>> take to do this currently not well known amount of work that you have 
>> never
>> done before with a changing amount of resources?". :)
>>
>>> While the big merges of Elementary, Evas Generic Loaders and emotion
>>> Generic Players went better that I expected we are running out of time
>>> for interfaces.
>> yeah. still a few big things left and a fair few little things. :)
>>
>>> We delayed and hoped we would get in done and could still put it into
>>> 1.18, but looking at it now that seems impossible, if we do not want to
>>> delay even longer.
>>>
>>>
>>> So here is the new plan.
>>>
>>> o If you have some loose ends with a _realistic_ chance to get fixed 
>>> you
>>> have the next week for this.
>> sounds reasonable
>>
>>> o We switch EO and all interfaces back into BETA, all new code stays as
>>> is but is not officially released.
>> yup. not marked as stable.
>>
>>> o I will do the hard freeze and alpha release on Monday 18.07 
>>> (tentative
>>> date).
>> sounds good.
>>
>>> o After that we try our normal 4 weeks stabilization window (my glass
>>> ball is a bit dusty so I have a hard time to predict if 4 weeks are
>>> enough here)
>> if we can do it faster i'd be happy. i'm already going over bug 
>> tickets and
>> doing fixes. :)
>>
>>> Any objections or comments?
>> nope. other than maybe we can freeze faster
>
> I understand it here you want a faster stabilization period not an 
> earlier freeze.
> We can try that. In the end it depends on show stoppers left. If we 
> get all of that sorted out quickly we can cut a week I would say.
>
>
> What we could try would be:
> 18.07 Freeze / alpha tarballs
> 25.07 Beta 1
> 01.08 Beta 2 / or final if no show stoppers are left
> 08.08 Final if no show stoppers are left
>
> If we have still have problems around at that time we could delay for 
> some further days. Just as we handled this with the 3 months time 
> based releases.


I heard no complains here. Lets go ahead with it. I updated the wiki 
accordingly and I#m going to send out a freeze reminder mail now.
https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/efl_and_elementary_1_18/

regards
Stefan Schmidt

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