Dan D Niles wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 11:49 +0200, Kim Woelders wrote:
>> Dan D Niles wrote:
>>> Many of the actions defined for the root window do not work when
>>> nautilus is running.  For example, the scroll wheel does not cycle
>>> through desktops, and the left mouse button menus do not work.  The
>>> middle mouse button menus work fine. If I kill nautilus, they all
>> work
>>> fine.  Is there any way to get root window events to work in the
>> desktop
>>> context?
>>>
>> No, the root button actions will not work when you have nautilus 
>> covering the root, but you can get the root menus with Ctrl-Shift-F1/2/3.
> 
> Bummer.  Fvwm added a desktop context to deal with file managers.  Are
> there any plans to add a desktop context or something similar?
> 
If you mean if e16 is going to provide easily configurable desktop 
icons, the answer is "probably not". e16 is a WM. e17 will give you a 
full desktop environment.
You can of course run nautilus with --no-desktop (can also be configured 
permanently with gconf-editor), and it won't cover your root, but you 
won't have the nautilus desktop icons either.
You can also make the nautilus desktop window not-sticky, and it will 
only occupy one of your desks.

>>> I was working on making my own keybindings, and had it working for a
>>> while.  I didn't know what the possible actions were and couldn't find
>>> any docs.  I installed e16keyedit and played with that for a while.  I
>>> didn't care for it so I removed it.  But now enlightenment won't listen
>>> to my keybindings.  I can change, add, or remove keybindings in my
>>> ~/.enlightenment/keybindings.cfg but they will not change.  I tried
>>> restarting enlightenment and logging out and back in. If I put an error
>>> in the file, it complains about it though.  My theory is that e16keyedit
>>> did something that is overriding my keybindings.   Any idea how to fix
>>> it?
>>>
>> You seem to be using e16 0.16.7.x. It has some issues in that area.
>> The only way to fix it is really to remove 
>> ~/.enlightenment/...e_session-XXXXXX, losing most of your settings.
> 
> Opps, I forgot to mention what version I was using..  Yes, I'm running
> 0.16.7.2.  That will work, I haven't changed much yet.
> 
>>> I use the gnome workspace switcher to manage my desktops.  I use 10
>>> desktops in a 5x2 arrangement.  Gnome has functions for going to the
>>> desktop left, right, above, or below the current one.  I cannot find a
>>> way to do that with enlightenment.  With fvwm, I can fake it by using
>>> 'GotoDesk -5 0 0 9' to go to the desktop above the current one.  I could
>>> write a shell script that uses eesh to get the current desktop,
>>> calculate where to go, and then set the desktop.  That seems like the
>>> hard, and slow, way to do it.  Is there any way to do this cleanly in
>>> the keybindings.cfg file?
>>>
>> There should be default keybindings for that (Alt-Shift-Left/Right/...).
> 
> Yes, left and right are bound, but not up and down.  It is the two
> dimensional movement I'm looking to duplicate.  Just using previous and
> next takes too long when using 10 desktops.
> 
All four keybindings Alt-Shift-Left/Right/Up/Down are by default set by 
e16 to do what you want. If the Up/Down ones don't work for you, either 
you are not using a default configuration or some other app has grabbed 
those key combinations.

>>> Lastly, is there any documentation on the language used in the
>>> keybindings.cfg file?  I wasn't able to find any.  I had to poke around
>>> in the source to find some things out, but I don't feel like I have a
>>> complete grasp of what is possible.
>>>
>> If you want to use e16 I suggest you upgrade to e16 0.16.8.x and take a 
>> look at README-0.16.8 and bindings.cfg.
> 
> I'm using Ubuntu, and I prefer to stick with what's in the repositories.
> How new is 16.8?  Maybe Ubuntu will upgrade sometime soon.
> 
0.16.8 appeared well over a year ago, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
It is not entirely painless to migrate from 0.16.7.x to 0.16.8.x, which 
is probably why 0.16.8.x hasn't been picked up in debian.

/Kim

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