On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:50:28 +0200 Ruud Dozijn <rdoz...@hotmail.com> said:
> > > > > - is e16 still used/ supported? > > > > its still used by people and supported by kim. (nice one kim!) > > > > Hi Carsten, > > thanks for answering. Playing with both e16 and e17 made me like e16 more > than e17. But e16 has some 'features' I cannot get to work. For example: it > is possible to create a systray using the menu's. The result is a little > empty box. I have not the slightest clue how I can use it or fill with icons > to start applications with (like a e17 shelf). I bet there must be some > configuration file. If there is some example or description about this, I'd > be very happy. I found some questions on the net about this, and the > responses made me conclude it is necessary to install gnome or so. I hope > this is not the case... systray is a specific thing - its a direct copy of the windows systray by the major desktops (kde/gnome). you don't fill it with apps - if you run an app that has a systray icon - it will go in there - but that's it. you need apps that use it and then need to run them. i detest the systray personally for many various technical reasons. e17's shelf is a generic "panel" for stuff - you can have as part of it a systray, but also launcher icons, pager etc. e17 can have as many panels as you like places along the screen edges with many variations of size etc. > > > - e16 seems to support convenient user configurable menu's whereas e17 > > > seems to lack it. In e17, I found among the possible key bindings an > > > action labelled 'Show menu....' Is there some documentation on it, or can > > > someone explain how it can be used? > > > > you'll need to be more specific here. what do you want to do with menus? e17 > > has 6 menus it knows about right now. main, favorites, all, clients, > > lost_clients and configuration. by default left mouse on desktop is > > configured to show the main menu and middle mouse the clients menu. you can > > reconfigure bindings (mouse and keyboard) to show any of these named menus. > > there are pre-defined actions for showing favorites, all, clients and main > > menu. the window menu too actually but its context-dependent. > > What I want to do is to make a menu with some submenu's. Looking for a way to > activate it, I came across this key binding. 'Show menu....'. But it does > nothing and I don't know what it is supposed to do. Of course, I could make a > custom menu and call it favorite.menu; your reply gives me enough hints to > start with. then you need to do this xml goodness by hand. you're a very tiny minority of people. the vast majority (including me) are happy with the system applications menu that has things organised by category in submenus and this lists everything you have installed. if i want a short list of things to launch that i commonly use and want quick access i sure don't want to bury things into submenus etc and i frankly just use ibar's launcher and i'm happy. > > the favorites menu is configurable by the user - it shows the list of > > favorite apps to launch. you can create "apps" that run any command you > > like - create a new desktop file. there's configu dialogs in the apps menu > > under personal app launchers. you can configure the favorite applications > > list from the "favorite applications" gui dialog (select what is in it and > > the order). > > > > if you truly want a custom nested menu - then the system applications menu > > is for that. it allows u to select which menu to use - you can create your > > own but its an xml file u have to make and its a pain - almost no one needs > > such a thing so its manual - no worse than fvwm. this can define a list of > > desktop files like favorites as well as categories and more. > > haha, no, being used to fvwm makes that I can deal with a lot of that stuff. > Dont be afraid of frightening me off. > > thanks, Rudd > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. 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