On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> said:
> On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry > > <christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com> said: > > > >> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 > >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > >> > >> ...snip... > >>>> I read on another thread you saying e18 is actually less bleeding > >>>> edge than e17. Do you suggest running the e18 branch to gain more > >>>> stability? > >>> > >>> i would say its rock solidly stable. it works better than e17. it > >>> should also use less memory (when compositing). e18 has no choice > >>> there though. you composite like it or not. :) > >>> > >> ... > >> > >> I'm using e17.3 from SID, with composite and opengl off (it crashes > >> my box very hard if switched on, and I must delete ~/.e to be able to > >> restart enlightenment again). I have a Radeon HD 7850. Would it be a > >> bad idea for me to upgrade to e18 since composite is always on? > > > > i'd say it's a bad idea to have an ati gpu at all. there's your root > > cause. ;] > > > That doesn't help people with laptops and ATI gpu's you can just get a different laptop. it's not that hard. :) > I know you don't like ATI but you can't ignore that it exists, and > making statements like you just like looks very bad on the project you lead. if your gpu driver causes your system to hard-lock... i would say the problem is entirely out of our hands. your gpu driver has a major major major bug. if someone said "your software causes a kernel hard-lock every time it writes a file in my home directory"... and the software is saving your document to disk... then maybe, just maybe, the problem is with your kernel, or your hdd controller. if it just so happens that the document is the exact right size to cause that kernel bug... maybe change kernel. if it happens to be something that is tied to a specific device driver having that bug - a great way to avoid it is to not need that device driver at all... and to do that... don't have the hardware that it drives. my experiences with fglrx for instance were so bad that the driver quality there i consider so suspect that you should consider buying a new laptop. these are drivers that LITERALLY in the past refused to do texture-from-pixmap for compositing UNLESS your process name was "compiz". i kid you not. THAT is what is considered a shippable driver by ati. i lost several weeks of my life figuring that out. i shall never ever ever touch an ati gpu or driver again. i had to use fglrx because radeon open source drivers didn't support the hd4650 i had at the time. i was also bitten by it back in 2003 or so on the promise of "better drivers" with an R250 in a laptop i bought. nothing but pain there for years. nvidia based machines ran smoothly and fine - my ati machine was barely usable when it came to gl. i've been bitten twice by ati/radeon drivers on linux. i shall never again go there. ever. my advice to anyone who comes with "XXX is broken on my ati/radeon", which, to this very day is still the case. a recent case of "it is broken on fglrx" but a move to radeon oss drivers made it work - just recently here, i will instantly advise to switch gpu's. problems have been minimal as long as i've avoided radeon/ati. i suggest people do the same for their own sanity. -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
