On 11/12/2013 10:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > said: > >> On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry >>> <christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com> said: >>> >>>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 >>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> ...snip... >>>>>> I read on another thread you saying e18 is actually less bleeding >>>>>> edge than e17. Do you suggest running the e18 branch to gain more >>>>>> stability? >>>>> >>>>> i would say its rock solidly stable. it works better than e17. it >>>>> should also use less memory (when compositing). e18 has no choice >>>>> there though. you composite like it or not. :) >>>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> I'm using e17.3 from SID, with composite and opengl off (it crashes >>>> my box very hard if switched on, and I must delete ~/.e to be able to >>>> restart enlightenment again). I have a Radeon HD 7850. Would it be a >>>> bad idea for me to upgrade to e18 since composite is always on? >>> >>> i'd say it's a bad idea to have an ati gpu at all. there's your root >>> cause. ;] >> >> >> That doesn't help people with laptops and ATI gpu's > > you can just get a different laptop. it's not that hard. :)
Yes it is that hard. This isn't a throw-away netbook or a tablet that comes free with a phone contract. This laptop is a Dell M4600 Precision and it's maxed out, 16G RAM, 128G SSD, 500G HDD and 2nd Gen i7. It costs a goddamn fortune and the company paid for it. I can't just "get another one because some arb dude called raster on the intartubes has a thing about ATI". > >> I know you don't like ATI but you can't ignore that it exists, and >> making statements like you just like looks very bad on the project you lead. > > if your gpu driver causes your system to hard-lock... i would say the problem > is entirely out of our hands. your gpu driver has a major major major bug. I replied to your post where you said ATI makes crap gpus. But this sentence is about drivers. So what is the problematic element? The hardware or ATI's fglrx driver? I don't use fglrx, I run OSS radeon. The reason I don't use fglrx is because I can't figure the damn thing out but I ordered the hardware knowing in advance the radeon OSS drivers works just fine. > > if someone said "your software causes a kernel hard-lock every time it writes > a [snip fglrx rant] Yes, I know all of that. You are very vocal in your opinion about fglrx. I just think your blanket statement about get another gpu are unrealistic in real life, and reflect badly on the project as a whole. Maybe tone done the rhetoric a touch, or stfu on the matter, or issue a policy statement as to what the project supports that doesn't leave a whole segment out in the cold. Most folks I know would just give up on e and install KDE rather than try figure out how to wangle an ATI card and an nVidia one in. Like I said, this here gpu is embedded. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, & PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
