Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled
from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent
software use the *releases*. They are there for a reason.


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Florian Schaefer <list...@netego.de> wrote:

> Hello enlightenment,
>
> thanks to everybody for their hard efforts in developing this amazing
> piece of software. Been using E for 10+ years now (I guess). Though,
> lately it is making my life a bit more difficult (to say the least) and
> I am getting to the point where I seriously considered switching to a
> different WM as I cannot get my most basic tasks done any more. So I
> decided to join the users discussions and try to slowly get my troubles
> mended out. ;-)
>
> I am running the latest (ok, currently dating back to Sunday) git of
> pretty much everything on a Debian/sid, and my problems started about
> two or three weeks ago, I guess.
>
> One of them is related to window focus. I use sloppy focus and ever so
> often it goes astray: I have, e.g., a java application, Pauker, that at
> some point emits some kind of "alert", getting the focus. However, the
> window is at that time on another virtual desktop and the window my
> mouse cursor currently resides in is still having the decorations to
> tell me "hey, I have currently the focus". Even moving the mouse between
> some windows does not recover the focus (even though the title bars
> indicate activated windows as expected). I am forced to switch to the
> Pauker application, do something there and only after that I finally
> regain control over my focus.
>
> I am experiencing a similar issue sometimes with the "Wicd Network
> Manager" GUI window. It seems to have the focus when I hover with the
> mouse over it. But then I try to press the connect button and just at
> that moment it goes out of focus and the click gets to the underlying
> window instead. To fix this I need to switch a bit between virtual
> desktops and other windows until I can finally click this nasty connect
> button. Very unnerving.
>
> Another point is application icons. Most of my application icons have
> disappeared, both in the start menus (that's not so bad) and in the
> windows itself (it get's kind of tricky to distinguish between several
> minimized applications if all of them are without any kind of icon). The
> point is that I cannot make out the system behind which icons are
> missing. Some system applications are fine, some are not. Some of my
> .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications are fine, some are not.
> And it also does not seem to be related to a particular type of image
> format. Tried to delete the efreet cache, to no avail. I also tried to
> define the application icons again by using the "create icon" function,
> but this also does not work, the icon is shown in the configuration
> dialog but seems to be discarded I closed this dialog (well, honestly
> speaking I cannot remember a time in all those years where the "create
> icon" function really reliably worked for me).
>
> Perhaps related to that, most applications have also vanished from
> Everything, and I get messages such as "app not found acroread" on the
> console. Even though my acroread is still there and happily around.
>
> I think that are my two main points for now: Trouble working at all
> because I cannot get to focus the windows I need to be in focus and
> trouble identifying them as they do not have any icons.
>
> I complied all e related stuff for a long time now without physics,
> without gstreamer and without pulseaudio. But as someone introduced this
> --really-nice-new-super-long-configure-option I tried to get at least
> physics and gstreamer into efl. But really, I do not need a desktop
> environment, just a window manager. I disabled anything related to efm
> and could curse any program that creates a ~/Desktop folder. I do not
> want this dammed thing. Therefore I also do not understand why I am
> forced into compiling fancy stuff like physics simulation or video
> playback into my WM. (I am happy using mplayer and and additonal video
> libraries I am forced to install are just bloating my system without any
> additional benefit to me.) But that's another, more philosophical,
> question for now I guess... ;-)
>
> OK, sorry for the long rant, and cheers to everyone,
> Florian
>
>
>
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