Hello, On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> wrote: > Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled > from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent > software use the *releases*. They are there for a reason.
I will disagree with you here Jeff, it is valuable to get bug report from problem on our git. For a long time we have considered that git should be daily usable without trouble. So any bug report regarding a problem that stay around for more than a few day and his not referenced in phab is useful. > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Florian Schaefer <list...@netego.de> wrote: >> thanks to everybody for their hard efforts in developing this amazing >> piece of software. Been using E for 10+ years now (I guess). Though, >> lately it is making my life a bit more difficult (to say the least) and >> I am getting to the point where I seriously considered switching to a >> different WM as I cannot get my most basic tasks done any more. So I >> decided to join the users discussions and try to slowly get my troubles >> mended out. ;-) >> >> I am running the latest (ok, currently dating back to Sunday) git of >> pretty much everything on a Debian/sid, and my problems started about >> two or three weeks ago, I guess. >> >> One of them is related to window focus. I use sloppy focus and ever so >> often it goes astray: I have, e.g., a java application, Pauker, that at >> some point emits some kind of "alert", getting the focus. However, the >> window is at that time on another virtual desktop and the window my >> mouse cursor currently resides in is still having the decorations to >> tell me "hey, I have currently the focus". Even moving the mouse between >> some windows does not recover the focus (even though the title bars >> indicate activated windows as expected). I am forced to switch to the >> Pauker application, do something there and only after that I finally >> regain control over my focus. >> >> I am experiencing a similar issue sometimes with the "Wicd Network >> Manager" GUI window. It seems to have the focus when I hover with the >> mouse over it. But then I try to press the connect button and just at >> that moment it goes out of focus and the click gets to the underlying >> window instead. To fix this I need to switch a bit between virtual >> desktops and other windows until I can finally click this nasty connect >> button. Very unnerving. I think other people did experience similar focus issue with E19 (E from git). I think it is related to how people setup their windows. I do have all of them always maximised and one application per virtual desktop, that seems to not trigger any problem. I will let Mike comment on those issue as he knows more than I do about E. >> Another point is application icons. Most of my application icons have >> disappeared, both in the start menus (that's not so bad) and in the >> windows itself (it get's kind of tricky to distinguish between several >> minimized applications if all of them are without any kind of icon). The >> point is that I cannot make out the system behind which icons are >> missing. Some system applications are fine, some are not. Some of my >> .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications are fine, some are not. >> And it also does not seem to be related to a particular type of image >> format. Tried to delete the efreet cache, to no avail. I also tried to >> define the application icons again by using the "create icon" function, >> but this also does not work, the icon is shown in the configuration >> dialog but seems to be discarded I closed this dialog (well, honestly >> speaking I cannot remember a time in all those years where the "create >> icon" function really reliably worked for me). So you did destroy ~/.cache/efreet/ ? Did you try to manually run efreet_desktop_cache_create afterward (can be found in /usr/lib/efreet/v-1.9/) ? I saw that problem once in the past week, and Carsten to, but it did vanish after a rebuild and restart of E. So I am currently lacking a clue of what is going on here. >> Perhaps related to that, most applications have also vanished from >> Everything, and I get messages such as "app not found acroread" on the >> console. Even though my acroread is still there and happily around. Yes, that would be related. >> I think that are my two main points for now: Trouble working at all >> because I cannot get to focus the windows I need to be in focus and >> trouble identifying them as they do not have any icons. >> >> I complied all e related stuff for a long time now without physics, >> without gstreamer and without pulseaudio. But as someone introduced this >> --really-nice-new-super-long-configure-option I tried to get at least >> physics and gstreamer into efl. But really, I do not need a desktop >> environment, just a window manager. I disabled anything related to efm >> and could curse any program that creates a ~/Desktop folder. I do not >> want this dammed thing. Therefore I also do not understand why I am >> forced into compiling fancy stuff like physics simulation or video >> playback into my WM. (I am happy using mplayer and and additonal video >> libraries I am forced to install are just bloating my system without any >> additional benefit to me.) But that's another, more philosophical, >> question for now I guess... ;-) Well, EFL is not only for E, but also for Terminology. Having a good and working video backend is part of the need for Terminology (For EFM to in fact). Lately we have discovered bugs in libvlc that make the vlc backend less reliable and so gstreamer1 is currently the best option. As for physics, well, there have been the idea of using it in E wallpaper at some point, but we never did have time to do so. -- Cedric BAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121054471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
