Sure, we need people testing things. If you want to provide feedback that
is useful you should be filing bug reports on Phab -> phab.enlightenment.org

You ARE going to have issues with compiling from GIT though. It is unstable
by design.


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Florian Schaefer <list...@netego.de> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback
> on the software he loves to use in order to help turning it into a
> better product? ;-)
>
> So you propose that all my issues will be solved just by using e-0.18.3
> and efl-1.8.5? If so I will give it a shot.
>
> It's just that I somehow doubt this alone will be the solution. I think
> that something might be strange/wrong with my setup (if my issues raised
> before were really things that are present to everyone in the current
> development tree, I bet someone would have long since gone out there to
> squash these things out). Hence, I am turning to this users list,
> seeking sincerely help and advice.
>
> Best regards,
> Florian
>
> On 18.02.2014 10:17, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> > Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled
> > from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent
> > software use the *releases*. They are there for a reason.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Florian Schaefer <list...@netego.de>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello enlightenment,
> >>
> >> thanks to everybody for their hard efforts in developing this amazing
> >> piece of software. Been using E for 10+ years now (I guess). Though,
> >> lately it is making my life a bit more difficult (to say the least) and
> >> I am getting to the point where I seriously considered switching to a
> >> different WM as I cannot get my most basic tasks done any more. So I
> >> decided to join the users discussions and try to slowly get my troubles
> >> mended out. ;-)
> >>
> >> I am running the latest (ok, currently dating back to Sunday) git of
> >> pretty much everything on a Debian/sid, and my problems started about
> >> two or three weeks ago, I guess.
> >>
> >> One of them is related to window focus. I use sloppy focus and ever so
> >> often it goes astray: I have, e.g., a java application, Pauker, that at
> >> some point emits some kind of "alert", getting the focus. However, the
> >> window is at that time on another virtual desktop and the window my
> >> mouse cursor currently resides in is still having the decorations to
> >> tell me "hey, I have currently the focus". Even moving the mouse between
> >> some windows does not recover the focus (even though the title bars
> >> indicate activated windows as expected). I am forced to switch to the
> >> Pauker application, do something there and only after that I finally
> >> regain control over my focus.
> >>
> >> I am experiencing a similar issue sometimes with the "Wicd Network
> >> Manager" GUI window. It seems to have the focus when I hover with the
> >> mouse over it. But then I try to press the connect button and just at
> >> that moment it goes out of focus and the click gets to the underlying
> >> window instead. To fix this I need to switch a bit between virtual
> >> desktops and other windows until I can finally click this nasty connect
> >> button. Very unnerving.
> >>
> >> Another point is application icons. Most of my application icons have
> >> disappeared, both in the start menus (that's not so bad) and in the
> >> windows itself (it get's kind of tricky to distinguish between several
> >> minimized applications if all of them are without any kind of icon). The
> >> point is that I cannot make out the system behind which icons are
> >> missing. Some system applications are fine, some are not. Some of my
> >> .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications are fine, some are not.
> >> And it also does not seem to be related to a particular type of image
> >> format. Tried to delete the efreet cache, to no avail. I also tried to
> >> define the application icons again by using the "create icon" function,
> >> but this also does not work, the icon is shown in the configuration
> >> dialog but seems to be discarded I closed this dialog (well, honestly
> >> speaking I cannot remember a time in all those years where the "create
> >> icon" function really reliably worked for me).
> >>
> >> Perhaps related to that, most applications have also vanished from
> >> Everything, and I get messages such as "app not found acroread" on the
> >> console. Even though my acroread is still there and happily around.
> >>
> >> I think that are my two main points for now: Trouble working at all
> >> because I cannot get to focus the windows I need to be in focus and
> >> trouble identifying them as they do not have any icons.
> >>
> >> I complied all e related stuff for a long time now without physics,
> >> without gstreamer and without pulseaudio. But as someone introduced this
> >> --really-nice-new-super-long-configure-option I tried to get at least
> >> physics and gstreamer into efl. But really, I do not need a desktop
> >> environment, just a window manager. I disabled anything related to efm
> >> and could curse any program that creates a ~/Desktop folder. I do not
> >> want this dammed thing. Therefore I also do not understand why I am
> >> forced into compiling fancy stuff like physics simulation or video
> >> playback into my WM. (I am happy using mplayer and and additonal video
> >> libraries I am forced to install are just bloating my system without any
> >> additional benefit to me.) But that's another, more philosophical,
> >> question for now I guess... ;-)
> >>
> >> OK, sorry for the long rant, and cheers to everyone,
> >> Florian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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