Hi Jeff,
are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback
on the software he loves to use in order to help turning it into a
better product? ;-)
So you propose that all my issues will be solved just by using e-0.18.3
and efl-1.8.5? If so I will give it a shot.
It's just that I somehow doubt this alone will be the solution. I think
that something might be strange/wrong with my setup (if my issues raised
before were really things that are present to everyone in the current
development tree, I bet someone would have long since gone out there to
squash these things out). Hence, I am turning to this users list,
seeking sincerely help and advice.
Best regards,
Florian
On 18.02.2014 10:17, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled
> from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent
> software use the *releases*. They are there for a reason.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Florian Schaefer <list...@netego.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello enlightenment,
>>
>> thanks to everybody for their hard efforts in developing this amazing
>> piece of software. Been using E for 10+ years now (I guess). Though,
>> lately it is making my life a bit more difficult (to say the least) and
>> I am getting to the point where I seriously considered switching to a
>> different WM as I cannot get my most basic tasks done any more. So I
>> decided to join the users discussions and try to slowly get my troubles
>> mended out. ;-)
>>
>> I am running the latest (ok, currently dating back to Sunday) git of
>> pretty much everything on a Debian/sid, and my problems started about
>> two or three weeks ago, I guess.
>>
>> One of them is related to window focus. I use sloppy focus and ever so
>> often it goes astray: I have, e.g., a java application, Pauker, that at
>> some point emits some kind of "alert", getting the focus. However, the
>> window is at that time on another virtual desktop and the window my
>> mouse cursor currently resides in is still having the decorations to
>> tell me "hey, I have currently the focus". Even moving the mouse between
>> some windows does not recover the focus (even though the title bars
>> indicate activated windows as expected). I am forced to switch to the
>> Pauker application, do something there and only after that I finally
>> regain control over my focus.
>>
>> I am experiencing a similar issue sometimes with the "Wicd Network
>> Manager" GUI window. It seems to have the focus when I hover with the
>> mouse over it. But then I try to press the connect button and just at
>> that moment it goes out of focus and the click gets to the underlying
>> window instead. To fix this I need to switch a bit between virtual
>> desktops and other windows until I can finally click this nasty connect
>> button. Very unnerving.
>>
>> Another point is application icons. Most of my application icons have
>> disappeared, both in the start menus (that's not so bad) and in the
>> windows itself (it get's kind of tricky to distinguish between several
>> minimized applications if all of them are without any kind of icon). The
>> point is that I cannot make out the system behind which icons are
>> missing. Some system applications are fine, some are not. Some of my
>> .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications are fine, some are not.
>> And it also does not seem to be related to a particular type of image
>> format. Tried to delete the efreet cache, to no avail. I also tried to
>> define the application icons again by using the "create icon" function,
>> but this also does not work, the icon is shown in the configuration
>> dialog but seems to be discarded I closed this dialog (well, honestly
>> speaking I cannot remember a time in all those years where the "create
>> icon" function really reliably worked for me).
>>
>> Perhaps related to that, most applications have also vanished from
>> Everything, and I get messages such as "app not found acroread" on the
>> console. Even though my acroread is still there and happily around.
>>
>> I think that are my two main points for now: Trouble working at all
>> because I cannot get to focus the windows I need to be in focus and
>> trouble identifying them as they do not have any icons.
>>
>> I complied all e related stuff for a long time now without physics,
>> without gstreamer and without pulseaudio. But as someone introduced this
>> --really-nice-new-super-long-configure-option I tried to get at least
>> physics and gstreamer into efl. But really, I do not need a desktop
>> environment, just a window manager. I disabled anything related to efm
>> and could curse any program that creates a ~/Desktop folder. I do not
>> want this dammed thing. Therefore I also do not understand why I am
>> forced into compiling fancy stuff like physics simulation or video
>> playback into my WM. (I am happy using mplayer and and additonal video
>> libraries I am forced to install are just bloating my system without any
>> additional benefit to me.) But that's another, more philosophical,
>> question for now I guess... ;-)
>>
>> OK, sorry for the long rant, and cheers to everyone,
>> Florian
>>
>>
>>
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