On 10/06/2014 16:38, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Is basically the feedback I get from non-E users most times. Thoughts on
> this?
> 
> Recent example ->
> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/27qt7k/bodhi_linux_300_rc1_released_ubuntu_1404_base/
> 


Jeff,


I feel the same way as those posters, just without the violence, insults
and lets-rip-Jeff-a-new-one-coz-we-can attitude :-)

Truth be told, most enlightenment themes out there are butt-ugly and
amateurish. But enlightenment is a tool, it paints on the canvas, and
it's very good at doing that. It can also only paint what the theme
tells it to paint.

Icons are the thing that does stand out the most - enlightenment's
internal built-in icons are nice, but they are also very different from
all the other application icons the user will have, it leads to an
inconsistent look. I've learned to live with it, but really slick icons
would be nice.

GUI design is hard, really hard, and takes a fanatical attention to
detail. I watch the web designers at work, sometimes they obsess about
an element's position to *one* pixel! It does show in the results though.

I think your main problem is that like a code lead, you can only work
with the submissions you get and what you write yourself. You only get
to work with themes that people submit (that one fellow's comment that
you are the team lead and therefore.... is about as unhelpful as it
gets), and good themes take a good artist. I'm no artist :-)

I think if you want to address the uglyness of some themes, you'd need
to get decent feedback from real artists who can point out aesthetic
flaws in a constructive way. Random arb users on reddit is not where you
will get that.



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com


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