Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 27/03/2017 alle 01:41: > On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:01:44 +0200 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> said: > >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 26/03/2017 alle 15:36: >>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 22:36:45 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> >>> said: >>> >>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 23/03/2017 alle 00:29: >>>>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:49:09 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> >>>>> said: >>>>> >>>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/03/2017 alle 00:11: >>>>>>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:50:13 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/03/2017 alle 04:02: >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:49:00 +0100 Massimo Maiurana >>>>>>>>> <maiur...@gmail.com> said: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 14:29: >>>>>>>>>>> Mick ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 13:23: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 09:44:23 Massimo Maiurana wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I finally bought a brand new laptop :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course I installed E, building from source as I've always did >>>>>>>>>>>>> but I have two problems to solve. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The first is regarding acpi events: closing lid the laptop should >>>>>>>>>>>>> suspend, and indeed it is what happens under gnome (there also lid >>>>>>>>>>>>> open resumes it) but does not happen under E. Acpid is not >>>>>>>>>>>>> installed so probably that's what I need, but I wonder why it >>>>>>>>>>>>> works in gnome. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't run gnome, but from a more generic perspective you will >>>>>>>>>>>> need to install acpid and make sure it is running as a service >>>>>>>>>>>> when you boot up. Closing the lid then generates an event captured >>>>>>>>>>>> by acpid which by default will suspend to ram. Check what you >>>>>>>>>>>> have at Settings > Settings Panel > Input >>>>>>>>>>>>> ACPI Bindings > Lid Closed. I have set mine to 'Suspend >>>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligently' and >>>>>>>>>>>> it works as advertised. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hmh, well, i'm not sure acpid is required for this to work. I think >>>>>>>>>>> acpid is for managing acpi events, not for exposing them, or lid >>>>>>>>>>> close wouldn't work even under other environments. I'll try >>>>>>>>>>> installing it and see if it solves the problem. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, I installed acpid, now lid events are recognized but an old >>>>>>>>>> issue is back: dpms. >>>>>>>>>> Before installing acpid screen blanking did work as expected, after >>>>>>>>>> reaching timeout the screen was really blanked out, with acpid >>>>>>>>>> installed the backlight is never turned off so it is more an >>>>>>>>>> obscuring than a blanking. Indeed "xset q" says that dmps is off :/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> e enables dpms no matter what (unless blanking is off). unless >>>>>>>>> something else modified dpms after e changed it... it should stay >>>>>>>>> there. if you restart e it should go back to being set (ctrl+alt+end >>>>>>>>> not log out and log in). acpid itself would not do this at all as it >>>>>>>>> doesn't know about x. i suspect something like gnome-settings-daemon >>>>>>>>> is doing this. poke there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Indeed that does the trick, dpms is enabled if I restart E. And yes, >>>>>>>> gnome-settings-daemon is running, probably because gdm pulls it in. Is >>>>>>>> there a way I can prevent gsd from starting and/or make it not mess >>>>>>>> with dpms settings? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> kill it before e starts? :) use a ~/.xsession to do it then run >>>>>>> enlightenment_start ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't kill it as a user, don't have permissions to do it because it is >>>>>> launched by user Debian-gdm :( >>>>> >>>>> then stop using gdm... use lightdm, xdm, slim ... something else...? >>>> >>>> I tried both lightdm and slim, gsd is not running but E always starts >>>> with dpms disabled :( >>> >>> something else resetting on login? what processes are running? >> >> Attached are outputs from "ps aux" and "pstree", there are a lot of >> processes but I can't understand what could be messing with dpms settings. > > hmm. i dont see anything there that i think would do it... but maybe it's > started then exits fast on startup and someone else starts it... :/ ?
Someone else definitely no as I'm the only user... something else could be, the problem is finding what does it :( >>>> There is another gnome related process which is launched at startup: >>>> at-spi2-registryd, the accessibility daemon, launched with the option >>>> --use-gnome-session. Maybe it could control dpms settings but I don't >>>> know how to prevent it from running. Someone said that the env variable >>>> NO_AT_BRIDGE=1 should do it, but that's not true at least here. >>> >>> who starts that? i know e's code goes through the exact same path on login >>> and restart when it comes to applying config like dpms... or it used to... >> >> Looks like it's started by systemd. >> If I manually restart E it enables dpms; maybe that restart you are >> talking doesnìt occur for some reason? > > the restart is the "manually restart e". all e dopes it exec() itself like > fork > () +exec() for any process. it replaces itself with itself. e goes through > almost the same init when restarting - it knows it's restarting because e sets > an environment variable that stays around after exec()... and when restarting > it skips a few things like startup apps (doesnt run them)... but the screen > setup is still the same code path on start and restart... > > e_dpms_init() calls e_dpms_force_update(). e_dpms_force_update() calls > ecore_x_dpms_enabled_set(). e_dpms_init() is called unconditionally on startup > from main()... so it's all called and set up... either somehow screen saving > is > deemed to be off at this time (which is odd that it sets it up later with no > cfg change... it just goes through this path again on restart)... or something > else undoes the dpms setup during startup... you have a LOT of stuff running > though i see. a LOT. Apart from my apps (terminology+tmux, thunderbird, firefox, tint2, telegram) it's all debian stuff. Oh, and there are even some services I need (apache, mariadb and maybe something else). For now I did a workaround creating a desktop app that executes "xset +dpms" and put it in startup apps. At least now it works :) Thanks Massimo >>>>>>>>>>>>> The second is about icons: Applications menu is full populated >>>>>>>>>>>>> with all applications, including my own in >>>>>>>>>>>>> ~/.local/share/applications, but only 3 of them have an icon >>>>>>>>>>>>> associated (a custom of mine, gnome-font-viewer and the E >>>>>>>>>>>>> filemanager). Also, much more annoying, evry doesn't list desktop >>>>>>>>>>>>> applications in the list that appears when I start typing, only >>>>>>>>>>>>> executables and directories are listed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > Applications, should >>>>>>>>>>>> give you some options. One of these ought to make all/most >>>>>>>>>>>> application icons to show up. Also check Settings > Settings Panel >>>>>>>>>>>>> Menu Settings >>>>>>>>>>>>> Miscellaneous, does not have 'Disable icons in menus' selected. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I DO have applications in menu, my problem is not that. What I miss >>>>>>>>>>> is icons for applications, but for that three applications mentioned >>>>>>>>>>> above that have an icon in their own menu entry. If "disable icons" >>>>>>>>>>> was checked I wouldn't have any icon neither for those three ;) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, as said, I don't have applications displayed in evry. >>>>>>>>>>> E.g. on the other laptop if I type "ice" in evry I see the icedove >>>>>>>>>>> icon and so I can launch that application; I also see the icedove >>>>>>>>>>> binary but can distinguish between them because the application >>>>>>>>>>> starts with a capital letter and also displays an icon. In this >>>>>>>>>>> laptop if i type "ice" I see only the icedove executable, not the >>>>>>>>>>> application. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Other example: I have a custom application named "Bpiol", which >>>>>>>>>>> executes a binary called "launcher_linux.bat". If I type "bp" I >>>>>>>>>>> don't see the application, and because the executable doesn't have >>>>>>>>>>> the same name I don't see nothing. But evry displays menu >>>>>>>>>>> categories as dirs, so if I browse that dirs I can reach any >>>>>>>>>>> application including "Bpiol". >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To configure Everything, check your settings under Settings > >>>>>>>>>>>> Settings Panel > Launcher. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> HTH :-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>>>>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> enlightenment-users mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Massimo Maiurana >>>>>>>>>> Ragusa (RG) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>>>>>>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> enlightenment-users mailing list >>>>>>>>>> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Massimo Maiurana >>>>>>>> Ragusa (RG) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Massimo Maiurana >>>>>> Ragusa (RG) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Massimo Maiurana >>>> Ragusa (RG) >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Massimo Maiurana >> Ragusa (RG) > > -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
