Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 23/03/2017 alle 00:29:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:49:09 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> said:
> 
>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/03/2017 alle 00:11:
>>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:50:13 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/03/2017 alle 04:02:
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:49:00 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
>>>>> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 14:29:
>>>>>>> Mick ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 13:23:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 09:44:23 Massimo Maiurana wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> I finally bought a brand new laptop :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course I installed E, building from source as I've always did but I
>>>>>>>>> have two problems to solve.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The first is regarding acpi events: closing lid the laptop should
>>>>>>>>> suspend, and indeed it is what happens under gnome (there also lid
>>>>>>>>> open resumes it) but does not happen under E. Acpid is not installed
>>>>>>>>> so probably that's what I need, but I wonder why it works in gnome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't run gnome, but from a more generic perspective you will need
>>>>>>>> to install acpid and make sure it is running as a service when you boot
>>>>>>>> up. Closing the lid then generates an event captured by acpid which by
>>>>>>>> default will suspend to ram.  Check what you have at Settings >
>>>>>>>> Settings Panel > Input 
>>>>>>>>> ACPI Bindings > Lid Closed.  I have set mine to 'Suspend
>>>>>>>>> Intelligently' and 
>>>>>>>> it works as advertised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmh, well, i'm not sure acpid is required for this to work. I think
>>>>>>> acpid is for managing acpi events, not for exposing them, or lid close
>>>>>>> wouldn't work even under other environments. I'll try installing it and
>>>>>>> see if it solves the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I installed acpid, now lid events are recognized but an old issue
>>>>>> is back: dpms.
>>>>>> Before installing acpid screen blanking did work as expected, after
>>>>>> reaching timeout the screen was really blanked out, with acpid installed
>>>>>> the backlight is never turned off so it is more an obscuring than a
>>>>>> blanking. Indeed "xset q" says that dmps is off :/
>>>>>
>>>>> e enables dpms no matter what (unless blanking is off). unless something
>>>>> else modified dpms after e changed it... it should stay there. if you
>>>>> restart e it should go back to being set (ctrl+alt+end not  log out and
>>>>> log in). acpid itself would not do this at all as it doesn't know about
>>>>> x. i suspect something like gnome-settings-daemon is doing this. poke
>>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed that does the trick, dpms is enabled if I restart E. And yes,
>>>> gnome-settings-daemon is running, probably because gdm pulls it in. Is
>>>> there a way I can prevent gsd from starting and/or make it not mess with
>>>> dpms settings?
>>>
>>> kill it before e starts? :) use a ~/.xsession to do it then run
>>> enlightenment_start ?
>>
>> I can't kill it as a user, don't have permissions to do it because it is
>> launched by user Debian-gdm :(
> 
> then stop using gdm... use lightdm, xdm, slim ... something else...?

I tried both lightdm and slim, gsd is not running but E always starts
with dpms disabled :(

There is another gnome related process which is launched at startup:
at-spi2-registryd, the accessibility daemon, launched with the option
--use-gnome-session. Maybe it could control dpms settings but I don't
know how to prevent it from running. Someone said that the env variable
NO_AT_BRIDGE=1 should do it, but that's not true at least here.


>>>>>>>>> The second is about icons: Applications menu is full populated with
>>>>>>>>> all applications, including my own in ~/.local/share/applications,
>>>>>>>>> but only 3 of them have an icon associated (a custom of mine,
>>>>>>>>> gnome-font-viewer and the E filemanager). Also, much more annoying,
>>>>>>>>> evry doesn't list desktop applications in the list that appears when
>>>>>>>>> I start typing, only executables and directories are listed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > Applications, should give
>>>>>>>> you some options.  One of these ought to make all/most application
>>>>>>>> icons to show up. Also check Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings
>>>>>>>>> Miscellaneous, does not have 'Disable icons in menus' selected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I DO have applications in menu, my problem is not that. What I miss is
>>>>>>> icons for applications, but for that three applications mentioned above
>>>>>>> that have an icon in their own menu entry. If "disable icons" was
>>>>>>> checked I wouldn't have any icon neither for those three ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, as said, I don't have applications displayed in evry.
>>>>>>> E.g. on the other laptop if I type "ice" in evry I see the icedove icon
>>>>>>> and so I can launch that application; I also see the icedove binary but
>>>>>>> can distinguish between them because the application starts with a
>>>>>>> capital letter and also displays an icon. In this laptop if i type "ice"
>>>>>>> I see only the icedove executable, not the application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other example: I have a custom application named "Bpiol", which executes
>>>>>>> a binary called "launcher_linux.bat". If I type "bp" I don't see the
>>>>>>> application, and because the executable doesn't have the same name I
>>>>>>> don't see nothing. But evry displays menu categories as dirs, so if I
>>>>>>> browse that dirs I can reach any application including "Bpiol".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To configure Everything, check your settings under Settings > Settings
>>>>>>>> Panel > Launcher.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH  :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Ragusa (RG)
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