On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 22:36:45 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com> said:

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 23/03/2017 alle 00:29:
> > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:49:09 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
> > said:
> > 
> >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 21/03/2017 alle 00:11:
> >>> On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:50:13 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
> >>> said:
> >>>
> >>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto il 20/03/2017 alle 04:02:
> >>>>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:49:00 +0100 Massimo Maiurana <maiur...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> said:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Massimo Maiurana ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 14:29:
> >>>>>>> Mick ha scritto il 19/03/2017 alle 13:23:
> >>>>>>>> On Sunday 19 Mar 2017 09:44:23 Massimo Maiurana wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>> I finally bought a brand new laptop :)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Of course I installed E, building from source as I've always did
> >>>>>>>>> but I have two problems to solve.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The first is regarding acpi events: closing lid the laptop should
> >>>>>>>>> suspend, and indeed it is what happens under gnome (there also lid
> >>>>>>>>> open resumes it) but does not happen under E. Acpid is not installed
> >>>>>>>>> so probably that's what I need, but I wonder why it works in gnome.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't run gnome, but from a more generic perspective you will need
> >>>>>>>> to install acpid and make sure it is running as a service when you
> >>>>>>>> boot up. Closing the lid then generates an event captured by acpid
> >>>>>>>> which by default will suspend to ram.  Check what you have at
> >>>>>>>> Settings > Settings Panel > Input 
> >>>>>>>>> ACPI Bindings > Lid Closed.  I have set mine to 'Suspend
> >>>>>>>>> Intelligently' and 
> >>>>>>>> it works as advertised.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hmh, well, i'm not sure acpid is required for this to work. I think
> >>>>>>> acpid is for managing acpi events, not for exposing them, or lid close
> >>>>>>> wouldn't work even under other environments. I'll try installing it
> >>>>>>> and see if it solves the problem.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, I installed acpid, now lid events are recognized but an old issue
> >>>>>> is back: dpms.
> >>>>>> Before installing acpid screen blanking did work as expected, after
> >>>>>> reaching timeout the screen was really blanked out, with acpid
> >>>>>> installed the backlight is never turned off so it is more an obscuring
> >>>>>> than a blanking. Indeed "xset q" says that dmps is off :/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> e enables dpms no matter what (unless blanking is off). unless something
> >>>>> else modified dpms after e changed it... it should stay there. if you
> >>>>> restart e it should go back to being set (ctrl+alt+end not  log out and
> >>>>> log in). acpid itself would not do this at all as it doesn't know about
> >>>>> x. i suspect something like gnome-settings-daemon is doing this. poke
> >>>>> there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Indeed that does the trick, dpms is enabled if I restart E. And yes,
> >>>> gnome-settings-daemon is running, probably because gdm pulls it in. Is
> >>>> there a way I can prevent gsd from starting and/or make it not mess with
> >>>> dpms settings?
> >>>
> >>> kill it before e starts? :) use a ~/.xsession to do it then run
> >>> enlightenment_start ?
> >>
> >> I can't kill it as a user, don't have permissions to do it because it is
> >> launched by user Debian-gdm :(
> > 
> > then stop using gdm... use lightdm, xdm, slim ... something else...?
> 
> I tried both lightdm and slim, gsd is not running but E always starts
> with dpms disabled :(

something else resetting on login? what processes are running?

> There is another gnome related process which is launched at startup:
> at-spi2-registryd, the accessibility daemon, launched with the option
> --use-gnome-session. Maybe it could control dpms settings but I don't
> know how to prevent it from running. Someone said that the env variable
> NO_AT_BRIDGE=1 should do it, but that's not true at least here.

who starts that? i know e's code goes through the exact same path on login and
restart when it comes to applying config like dpms... or it used to...

> >>>>>>>>> The second is about icons: Applications menu is full populated with
> >>>>>>>>> all applications, including my own in ~/.local/share/applications,
> >>>>>>>>> but only 3 of them have an icon associated (a custom of mine,
> >>>>>>>>> gnome-font-viewer and the E filemanager). Also, much more annoying,
> >>>>>>>>> evry doesn't list desktop applications in the list that appears when
> >>>>>>>>> I start typing, only executables and directories are listed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Settings > Settings Panel > Menu Settings > Applications, should give
> >>>>>>>> you some options.  One of these ought to make all/most application
> >>>>>>>> icons to show up. Also check Settings > Settings Panel > Menu
> >>>>>>>> Settings
> >>>>>>>>> Miscellaneous, does not have 'Disable icons in menus' selected.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I DO have applications in menu, my problem is not that. What I miss is
> >>>>>>> icons for applications, but for that three applications mentioned
> >>>>>>> above that have an icon in their own menu entry. If "disable icons"
> >>>>>>> was checked I wouldn't have any icon neither for those three ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also, as said, I don't have applications displayed in evry.
> >>>>>>> E.g. on the other laptop if I type "ice" in evry I see the icedove
> >>>>>>> icon and so I can launch that application; I also see the icedove
> >>>>>>> binary but can distinguish between them because the application
> >>>>>>> starts with a capital letter and also displays an icon. In this
> >>>>>>> laptop if i type "ice" I see only the icedove executable, not the
> >>>>>>> application.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Other example: I have a custom application named "Bpiol", which
> >>>>>>> executes a binary called "launcher_linux.bat". If I type "bp" I don't
> >>>>>>> see the application, and because the executable doesn't have the same
> >>>>>>> name I don't see nothing. But evry displays menu categories as dirs,
> >>>>>>> so if I browse that dirs I can reach any application including
> >>>>>>> "Bpiol".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To configure Everything, check your settings under Settings >
> >>>>>>>> Settings Panel > Launcher.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> HTH  :-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>
> >>
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> >> Massimo Maiurana
> >> Ragusa (RG)
> >>
> > 
> > 
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> Massimo Maiurana
> Ragusa (RG)
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