El mar, 21-01-2025 a las 21:39 +0000, Carsten Haitzler escribió: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 14:08:55 -0500 i...@bandshed.net said: > > > Hi, > > > > I recently discovered the optional 'Places' module for > > Enlightenment and > > I really like it. It seems most projects deploying Enlightenment as > > installable Live Media are depending on outside File Managers > > (Thunar > > seems to be the first pick) and Places makes this much easier to > > consolidate most functions and mounting of removable Media without > > confusing the User with multiple FM's. I have done a bit of > > cosmetic > > That'd be the problem of those distro maintainers not wanting to use > e's file > manager that's already there. It's not the intent for e so - no - not > going to > do this and make e extra confusing by having basically "2 file > managers" both > of which deal with listing mountable media or fs locations. That's > what EFM > already does out of the box by default and it's integrated so the > icons can be > dnd'd and behave like all other icons. > > i'm in the process of doing efm2 so DEFINITELY not adding places. > efm2 is > designed a bit differently (backend filesystem handling is a separate > process > the front wend talks to over stdin/out and *ALL* I/O is done by the > backend > (well if it's a .desktop file then whatever icon it points to the > front end > will show, or thumbnails will be local to the dir the files are in). > efm2 has a > much more fleshed out file view right now with detailed mode and > columns as > well etc. and it's thumbnailing is probably second to none in terms > of how much > it handles and how completely. it's in git if you want to play with > it. there > is more work to be done of course...
Glen, I have to agree that the place for these functions in the EFM, not a separate module. From another post I see that the MX packagers have backported e27. It can now handle file operations in partitions with secondary OSs, one of the things that has had me using DoubleCmd since the late e17 or the e18 days. (Double Commander is a whole 'nuther tool, not just an alternate FM!) However, I have also always had EFM loaded to deal with auto-mounting removable devices, which works much better than some tools on other DEs. I should also add that I find myself using EFM more and more these days for basic file operations. > > > changes to Places because with Dark themes the eject Icon was not > > very > > visible and I thought the Home and Module Icons should match but > > that's > > just an opinion.. > > > > https://bandshed.net/images/screenshots/shot-2025-01-21_11-43-21.jpg > > > > A mild annoyance is the need to version-match the module with every > > Enlightenment update but I would guess there is some wisdom in this > > that > > I'm not aware of but in any case I think Places should just be part > > of > > modules are bits of code that are loaded into e. they rely on e's > internal ABI. > this ABI is not guaranteed to not break between releases, thus > modules have to > version to the E they are built for. Yes, and for example, the make over of the cpufreq module for e27 required changes to the Flat theme which has been updated as well. The integration is important. There are other "favorite" modules that people recall from the e17 days, like the Engage dock. Not seeing the need for a dock given e's Everything module and rt click favorites menu, I don't understand that, especially as I think the iBar could be set up to meet the needs of those who want docks. I admit I see some of these things a clutter. > > > the main DE release (I believe Bodhi already does this) instead of > > kept > > secret in a dark attic. It serves a valuable use and definitely > > opens up > > E to more intuitive usage with other FM's. I know we have EFM2 in > > the > > works but in the meantime Places would be a useful module to come > > in a > > standard install. > > nope. as above. confusing with "2 file managers" duplicating > functionality etc. > etc. - it's against the whole idea of E to do this - efm is the > official > filemanager for e and it's there and does all of this. > > also i'm not going to just do things for people. after many decades, > i'm kind > of a bit old, tired and grumpy. :) i've learned if i do things for > people they > will NEVER get up and help. if you don't like something in efm - then > get up, > contribute and fix it. there never is any encouragement for anyone to > do > anything if i keep putting in half-through-through workarounds so > they don't > have any reason to bother. :) > > right now most of that effort would be best served contributing to > efm2... :) Thank you, old tired grumpy Raster, for allowing EFM to deal with the partitions of other OSs! > > > Anyone else have thoughts on this? > > Yes, do check out EFM in e27 first, and if there is something that Places does that you would like to see integrated, request that rather than dusting off an old module. Off-topic: Congrats on your work with AV Linux and use of e. While I have not been much in the deb world, I have helped some folks in setting up MX systems. The MX/AntiX guys do a nice job. Roy _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
