On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 7:19 PM <i...@bandshed.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> For some reason I didn't get the email with rasters original reply, I
> wish I hadn't TBH... I didn't ask for any outside code or any other FM
> to be added to E, it's raster's module! I also didn't specify that
> 'Places' should be set up for any application outside of E so as things
> are currently is adding Places would just augment the functions of EFM
> and be ready for EFM 2. EFM currently is a wonderful file 'browser' but
> if you're NOT a developer in the terminal all the time and you need
> networking support, tabbed interfaces or mounting a phone/tablet without
> writing your own jmptfs script then EFM is lacking as the primary FM if
> this weren't true there wouldn't be EFM2 in the works. It's not like I
> asked "hey can you put Thunar in E?" I asked if an existing module by
> the same developer might be convenient since some Users of E and all
> Users of Bodhi, eLive and now AV Linux are all using E with an external
> File Manager.
>
> I've spent 4 years with E, I've spent countless hours putting it into a
> Live deployable state to get it in front of more eyes because I think
> it's a great and overlooked DE. I'm not a developer, I work full time
> and I steal minutes to do what I already do so raster if you're "not
> going to just do things for people." and if "after many decades i'm kind
> of a bit old, tired and grumpy. :) i've learned if i do things for
> people they will NEVER get up and help. if you don't like get
> up,something in efm - then contribute and fix it." I guess we're clear
> on future discussions!
>
> I wouldn't talk to my dog like that, it was a logical and sensible
> question given how real people use E.. Given the established history
> that I like E and am trying to do something creative with it to promote
> it I can't imagine someone being spoken to like this anywhere else..
> Developers of pretty much ANY other DE or application would (a) politely
> take the question and (b) never tell the User to write their own part of
> the applications as the FIRST reply, maybe after the 10th question or
> after being unreasonably demanding for a period of time but not right
> off the hop.
>
> There's certainly no question you're brilliant, there's no question E
> shows your brilliance but I have so many better things to do than get my
> ass handed to me for asking an innocent question... I'm not in the DE
> writing business and surprisingly other projects find people to be
> useful even if they aren't developers. Enjoy the Ivory Tower!

raster is quite busy and doing almost everything on the EFL and E.
That might explain his reaction.

But I know that he wants a distro with E 27.

Maybe wait a bit so that the situation calms down a bit ?

best regards

Vincent


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