Thomas Schierle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Entourage (in contrast of Outlook Client Mac) is meant to be a pure
>RFC conformant client, therefore don't expect E. to connect to
>Exchange provided calendars unless Exchange makes them fully
>accessible via iCal.

I was once told that Entourage would understand �Invitations� from Exchange
even if it wouldn�t act as a full peer with Outlook clients. I.e. that
while Entourage wouldn�t act as an Exchange client as such, it /would/
understand stuff sent from Outlook given certain limitations. Since
Exchange exposes your Calendar as just another IMAP folder I figured it�d
be natural to enable some form of interaction here.


>Well, if Exchange or Active Directory share their databases via LDAP,
>there should be no major problem -- either ask your admin or give some
>details...

Exchange 5.5 ATM, but we do run a W2K AD (which two are not on speaking
terms ATM AFAIK). A migration to Exchange 2k is in the cards, but we have
some peculiarities in our configuration that makes this labour intensive to
do without dataloss.

Asking my admin would be a problem as in this context _I_ am the admin.
Since I know pretty much nil about Exchange, AD, or LDAP,, I�d appreciate
some hand-holding (think �small words, big letters� ;D) in getting
Entourage to talk to Exchange, for starters, and AD, for the long haul.

The local Microsoft Certified something-or-other manages the Exchange side,
and I could probably figure the LDAP bit out given time, but I was kinda
hoping there was a more elegant solution.


>btw, why do you want to import five thousand Contacts if you have an
>LDAP server available? Eventually E'rage doesn't permit to do so
>because working from a local contact database is likely to spoil
>corporate goals? ;-)

I want to do it because right now I can�t talk to that LDAP tree at all and
I want to have those addresses available without having to manually add
each one. I expect there�s some reasonably easy way to dump the Exchange
directory -- and munge it using Perl, or somesuch, to be importable into
Entourage -- but I�d kinda like to hear from others before I start
reinventing a square wheel.


>You've done a lot of bashing (IMHO because not getting the distinction
>between E'rage and Outlook Client right),

�bashing� in what sense? My connotations to the word imply that you feel
I�m critizising Entourage in some manner? I get the distinction between the
two very, painfully, clearly. I tried to use Outlook:mac and decided it
wasn�t worth the pain (running it in Classic on Mac OS X, talking to the
Exchange server over a GSM dialup, hooked up to the laptop using IrDa!).

Now I�m hoping I can coerce Entourage into doing the few things that are
essential -- out of the myriad things Outlook /can/ do but which I don�t
need -- so I can use that instead of resorting to just POPing mail and
leaving everything else to memory and habit.


>but you missed a major and valid
>point -- the missing ability of E'rage to write to an LDAP database.

Not an issue for me, at all. Apart from sending mail I need only read
access to Exchange and the directory (whether it�s Exchange or AD). Being
able to Update or send new Meeting/Event Requests/Notifications is nice,
but not essential. I simply need easy (bi-directional) access to
address-to-name mappings and the ability to get Entourage�s Calendar
synchronized with my Outlook (i.e. Exchange) Calendar.


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