On 1/18/02 5:33 PM, "Terje Bless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Omar Shahine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Email works fine using IMAP/SMTP, but the Exchange Calendar just >>> shows up as email messages. Is there any way to make Entourage either >>> apply a �Calendar View� to the Exchange �Calendar� mailbox, or to >>> make Entourage �import� the Mailbox as Calendar events? >> >> If you are using Exchange 2000 and you download any of those e-mail >> messages they actually get added to your calendar > > This is because Exchange 2k changed it�s format to iCal? Yes. > >> If you are using Exchange 2000 and you download any of those e-mail >> messages they actually get added to your calendar (because as e-mail >> messages we treat them as iCal meeting requests and auto add them). >> The problem with this is that it's a one way sync. Changes made to >> events won't bet picked up by Entourage. > > That�s ok in my setup. I just need to get stuff out of Exchange. While it > would be nice to have full support, I can�t ditch the `doze box on my desk > anyway, so I just need it for when I�m home/on the road and using my > TiBook. > > Is it conceivable that I might be able to AppleScript this? I�d rather not > have to manually open/add each �message�. Is there any way to make > Entourage open each �message� in that �mailbox� and add it to the local > Calendar? How about getting enough info out of it to filter out events that > have allready been added (date/time and �Subject� should suffice I think)? All you need to do is fully download the message. You can create a schedule to do that. > If this is actually possible I�ll be more impressed then you can imagine. > Well, I�ll probably berate someone for the sloppy security, but impressed > nonetheless! :-) > > I suppose I could always dredge stuff out by talking IMAP with the server > from Perl (or �insert favourite scripting language here� ;D), but I expect > the problem will be in auto-adding it to E�rage�s Calendar; unless I could > fool the Import function into auto-adding from a disk file or something? Well like I said above, just downloading the message will auto-add it to the calendar. > If none of this is possible, and the feature isn�t added to the next > version, might I suggest the ability to apply a Calendar �View� to some > random IMAP mailbox? AFAICT this is actually exactly what Outlook does; > while there is some special logic to deal with Scheduling and such, the > store is just another IMAP mailbox that Outlook applies it�s �Calendar� > view to. There is nothing stopping you from viewing the Calendar mailbox as > any other view -- the same as you Inbox, say -- if you should want. It's a bit more complex than that. You see, IMAP is a read only type of protocol. Say you edit a calendar event. There is no way in the IMAP protocol to edit the calendar message. You'd have to delete it and create a new one. The new one would a new GUID which would screw up a lot of things. > It would obviously still hinge on whether or not the thing was in iCal > format (why not read-only support for �Exchange-format� BTW?), but if > Exchange 2000 deals with that...? > > >>> Oh, and how do people integrate Entourage with Exchange�s Directory? >> >> Entourage does LDAP and depending on what version of NT/Exchange >> you're running you can access the directory by setting up an LDAP >> account and pointing it to either the Exchange server (if you are >> running Exchange 5.5), or the Active Directory Server (if you are >> running Win2K). > > And the relevant bits of LDAP magic to add to the account would be? Oh, and > an �LDAP Account� came up; WTF is that, would my Microsoft Certified Grand > Poobah (he�s a Certified Trainer, experienced in managing Exchange, and a > couple of other things) know what it is, and, if not, how do I get me one > of them thar LDAP Account thingies? :-) Well a windows 2k AD server in this case would be your LDAP server. Enter the server name into the server field for the LDAP account and pray that strong authentication is not required. > URLs to Technet Whitepapers discussing using Exchange/AD as a LDAP root > from non-MS clients would be _much_ appreciated! Sadly I don't know of any. >> Now, if the AD server requires anything besides basic authentication >> this will not work as our LDAP code cannot authenticate using anything >> greater than basic authentication (basically any challenge/response >> auth system). > > Not even with the MS UAM installed? As far as I could tell from the > piss-poor documentation, it gives you NTLMv2 which, again AFAICT, is what > NT4 uses by default. Or does that fall under the �basic auth� umbrella? How > about Kerberos? Since Kerberos _is_ an Internet standard and, some MS > extensions in the vendor-specific fields aside, should in that sense be > unproblematic to implement in Entourage (a right royal PITA from a > development PoV, but no problem from a IETF purist PoV). MS UAM is just for AppleShare authentication only. Exchange doesn't currently do Kerberos Authentication at all. Just NTLMv2, which is as secure, but not industry standard. -Omar -- omar shahine lead program manager, Entourage:mac, Macintosh Business Unit � SVC -- To unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archives: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.letterrip.com/> old-archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/>
