Joe, Bob

The biggest problem is that none of us are willinging to do anything
about it but talk.  Including myself.  If people really believed it
was better then, they would revert to that lifestyle.  You can do it,
it would just be a shock to your current situation.  The people who
are closest to this idea of living are the Old Order Amish.  Farming
and living without electricity etc.  Although they do use fertilizers
and chemicals so noone is perfect.

I have read that the forests were not full of big trees though.  They
would look like an old growth forest of today, as hardwoods seldom
live more than 2-300 years.  The natives used to burn the undergrowth
too for hunting.  I would like to see what it looked like before
humans entered North america altogether.  That would be interesting.
When the mega fauna were still walking around.  Thank God for computer
generated TV shows!

Scott

On Jan 14, 8:45 am, [email protected] wrote:
> Joe,
>
>     Thinking like the Earth, I tend to agree with you. Humans are incredibly 
> destructive. We are a species run amuck with little to be said for us in 
> terms of living up to our ideals. I'd like to think there is hope for us and 
> on some level I do, but not before there's a big population crash. Heck of a 
> way to start the day - thinking about such things.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Zorzin" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:11:32 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: ancient Sycamore
>
> When I see such trees- I always try to imagine North America before the Euros 
> shows up. Just imagine a virgin continent with billions of giant/ancient 
> trees, vast numbers of wildlife, clean air and clean water and humans living 
> in harmony with it- to me, that's the highest point of human evolution- since 
> then it's been all downhill.
>
> Joe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Parton
> To: ENTSTrees
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:34 AM
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: ancient Sycamore
>
> Beautiful Tree!
>
> JP
>
> On Jan 14, 12:20 am, Barry Caselli < [email protected] > wrote:
> > I have finally found the scans of the pictures of this tree. This was on a 
> > rural roadside in Upper Pittsgrove Township, Salem County, NJ. I can give a 
> > more exact location if needed. I think it would be cool to have this tree 
> > measured.
> > This is one of the largest Sycamores I've ever seen. This one not only has 
> > girth, but it has some height to it also.
> > I was in awe when I was near this one. I photographed it sometime in 2007 
> > or 2008. I can't remember for sure.
> > I think this tree is just crying to be measured! Just look at it! Too bad I 
> > travel alone, or I could have had a person stand with it for the photo.
> > Barry
> > P.S.- I normally refer to these trees as Buttonwoods, but for the purposes 
> > of this group I call them by their more proper name, Sycamores.
>
> > img622.jpg
> > 330KViewDownload
>
> > img623.jpg
> > 272KViewDownload- Hide quoted text -
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