Don,

When talking about a parameter, there has to be an all encompassing set of 
which the other parameters are a subset.  I se the Crown Volume as being the 
largest, all encompassing, description of the size of the crown, and other 
things such as volume of empty space, volume of leaves, etc  as subsets of this 
larger set.  It does not make sense to me that defining parameter - volume - 
not be the top value of the hierarchy, that it not be the all encompassing set.

Ed

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward Frank 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:57 PM
  Subject: [ENTS] Re: Crown Volme Estimates


  Don,

  Crown volume versus crown space.  I think the crown volume of the crown is 
made up of both occupied and empty space.  To me your terminology seems 
backwards.  If you are looking at trunk volume, you are not subtracting out the 
volume of the trunk that is hollow because it is enclosed or partially enclosed 
by the outermost wood.  Likewise the hollow space within the crown volume is 
still part of the crown volume because it is bounded by the outermost reaches 
of the crown.

  I don't think my concept  it has any more to do with aesthetics than any 
other measure of the tree.  It is a reasonable measure.  You can subdivide it 
into things like "crown bulk density" in your example, but that is a 
subdivision of the volume measure, not a better or alternative volume measure.  
his is because it does not include the entire crown, just those portions filled 
by leaves.  

  Some people have suggested that tree wood volumes be multiplied by an average 
density for the wood to create a truer value of the wood present.  Ok that is 
fine, but I see that as a different parameter, a rating of trees by weight, 
distinct from the volume measure.  It does not replace volume of wood as a 
measure, but is something different.  The crown bulk density is a reasonable 
measure, but is not the same as crown volume.

  Ed


  

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