George, 

The hackberry is off the charts. I've observed the species from Massachusetts 
to Iowa and measured them up to a little over 90 feet, but your hackberry is in 
a new class. The site index is quite respectable. 


Bob 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Luthringer" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:11:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Cedar Hollow Preserve, Pa. 


Great job, George!!! 

That hackberry blows away the rest in terms in height. That'll be a tough one 
to beat. 

Your honey locust and Norway maple are the tallest documented in PA... but we 
have very few in the database, so these could change. 

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply. I'm slowly getting to my data backlog and 
wanted to get this in my list of PA RI sites. 

Thanks! 

Dale 


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:52 PM, George Fieo < [email protected] > wrote: 






ENTS, 



On 3/14/09, my son and I stopped by the Cedar Hollow Preserve located in 
Tredyffrin Township, Chester Co., Pa. The preserve has a total of 67 acres 
containing open fields, flood plain, and wooded areas on steep slopes 
overlooking two streams, Cedar Hollow Run and Valley Creek. This site has lots 
of invasives with the slopes and ridges having little to none. The preserve was 
once a farm site and the old fields are full of honey locust. Church Rd. runs 
through the preserve dividing it into two sections, east and west. The east 
side is mostly open field and flood plain while the west side is completely 
wooded. 



The first tree we measured was a huge sycamore just south of the parking lot. 
It is the largest tree on the preserve at 19’5” x 107.2 x 119.5. This is the 
largest sycamore of four that had a 14’+ cbh. We then crossed Church Rd. and 
headed into the west side of the preserve. Tulip poplars dominate the canopy 
along with ash(green or white), red oak, sugar maple, and fewer bitternut 
hickory. Halfway up the north slope was a large fallen red oak with a 15’+ cbh. 
From here we walked the top of the ridge to the southwest corner of the 
preserve where we found an eastern red cedar. From where I stood the tree 
looked dead but it’s top was green. A closer look revealed that one side of the 
trunk had no bark but the back side did. It reminds me of a bristle cone pine. 
The cedar measured 6’1” x 48. Then we headed back, northeast along the ridge, 
and came across a small flat that had a few chinkapin oaks. Just below the flat 
was a fat bitternut hickory that measured 8’2” x 99.9. We were now on the south 
facing slope and found some more bitternut hickories and the tallest was 6’9” x 
114.4. We measured a few more trees before crossing back over Church Rd. and 
into the east side of the preserve. 



The east side is dominated by honey locust along with boxelder, black walnut, 
sycamore, and ash except for a small ridge in the northeast corner that has the 
same forest type as the west side of the preserve. Here we came across some 
short but fat honey locust. The largest cbh was 10’8”. We followed the stream, 
measuring a couple of fat sycamores along the way, crossing the creek and up 
into the small ridge. Along this ridge is a huge common hackberry( I made an 
earlier post about this tree). It measures 12’3” x 114.2 which makes it a new 
northeast height record. I measured one or two more trees before getting back 
to the truck. Another great day in the woods! 



Here are the measurements for Cedar Hollow Preserve. 



Site Index 

Species CBH Height 

A Beech 2’11” 80.7 

Bitternut Hickory 8’2” 99.9 

Bitternut Hickory 6’9” 114.4 

Black Locust 7’10” 91.7 

Black Locust 4’8” 101.5 

Black Walnut 5’6” 106.4 

Chinkapin Oak 7’1” 87.8 

Common Hackberry 12’3” 114.2 

Crack Willow(3x) 15’8” 68.9 

E Red Cedar 6’1” 48.0 

Green Ash? 6’5” 109.9 

Honey Locust 5’1” 90.5 

N Red Oak 10’11” 100.5 

N Red Oak 6’5” 110.4 

Norway Maple 3’8” 94.9 

Sugar Maple 5’6” 96.3 

Sweet Cherry 4’5” 82.0 

Sycamore 9’3” 121.9 

Tulip Poplar 10’8” 124.5 

Tulip Poplar 9’8” 134.0 

White Oak N/A 91.4 



Rucker Index 

Species CBH Height 

Tulip Poplar 9’8” 134.0 

Sycamore 9’3” 121.9 

Bitternut Hickory 6’9” 114.4 

Common Hackberry 12’3” 114.2 

N Red Oak 6’5” 110.4 

Green Ash? 6’5” 109.9 

Black Walnut 5’6” 106.4 

Black Locust 4’8” 101.5 

Sugar Maple 5’6” 96.3 

Norway Maple 3’8” 94.9 

RI 110.39 



Here is a list of 12 x 100’s for the site. 



Species CBH Height 

Common Hackberry 12’3” 114.2 

Sycamore 14’1” 102.6 

Sycamore 19’5” 107.2 

Sycamore 14’2” 121.5 



The other sycamore to measure more than 14’ and just shy of 100’ is 17’2” x 
98.4. 



George 






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