Got it, Thanks, George,
Dale On 8/2/09, George Fieo <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dale, > > > > The name was changed 2-3 years ago and is now the John James Audubon Center > at Mill Grove, 1201 Pawlings Rd., Norristown, Pa., 19403. Being a local the > A.W.S. is much shorter. > > > > George > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Dale Luthringer > *Sent:* Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:50 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: Cedar Hollow Preserve, Pa. > > > > George, > > > > What is the full name or nearest placename for the audubon sancturay you > speak of? > > > > Dale > > > > On 8/1/09, *George Fieo* <[email protected]> wrote: > > Bob, > > > > It’s a beautiful tree. I have measured only two other hackberries that > breached the 100’ mark. A 7.5 x 103.7 at Valley Forge National Park and a > 6.1 x 108.2 at the Audubon Wildlife Sanctuary. > > > > George > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *[email protected] > *Sent:* Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:35 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [ENTS] Re: Cedar Hollow Preserve, Pa. > > > > George, > > > > The hackberry is off the charts. I've observed the species from > Massachusetts to Iowa and measured them up to a little over 90 feet, but > your hackberry is in a new class. The site index is quite respectable. > > > > Bob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Luthringer" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:11:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [ENTS] Re: Cedar Hollow Preserve, Pa. > > Great job, George!!! > > > > That hackberry blows away the rest in terms in height. That'll be a tough > one to beat. > > > > Your honey locust and Norway maple are the tallest documented in PA... but > we have very few in the database, so these could change. > > > > Sorry it's taken me so long to reply. I'm slowly getting to my data > backlog and wanted to get this in my list of PA RI sites. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Dale > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:52 PM, George Fieo <[email protected]> wrote: > > ENTS, > > > > On 3/14/09, my son and I stopped by the Cedar Hollow Preserve located in > Tredyffrin Township, Chester Co., Pa. The preserve has a total of 67 acres > containing open fields, flood plain, and wooded areas on steep slopes > overlooking two streams, Cedar Hollow Run and Valley Creek. This site has > lots of invasives with the slopes and ridges having little to none. The > preserve was once a farm site and the old fields are full of honey locust. > Church Rd. runs through the preserve dividing it into two sections, east and > west. The east side is mostly open field and flood plain while the west > side is completely wooded. > > > > The first tree we measured was a huge sycamore just south of the parking > lot. It is the largest tree on the preserve at 19’5” x 107.2 x 119.5. > This is the largest sycamore of four that had a 14’+ cbh. We then crossed > Church Rd. and headed into the west side of the preserve. Tulip poplars > dominate the canopy along with ash(green or white), red oak, sugar maple, > and fewer bitternut hickory. Halfway up the north slope was a large fallen > red oak with a 15’+ cbh. From here we walked the top of the ridge to the > southwest corner of the preserve where we found an eastern red cedar. From > where I stood the tree looked dead but it’s top was green. A closer look > revealed that one side of the trunk had no bark but the back side did. It > reminds me of a bristle cone pine. The cedar measured 6’1” x 48. Then we > headed back, northeast along the ridge, and came across a small flat that > had a few chinkapin oaks. Just below the flat was a fat bitternut hickory > that measured 8’2” x 99.9. We were now on the south facing slope and found > some more bitternut hickories and the tallest was 6’9” x 114.4. We measured > a few more trees before crossing back over Church Rd. and into the east side > of the preserve. > > > > The east side is dominated by honey locust along with boxelder, black > walnut, sycamore, and ash except for a small ridge in the northeast corner > that has the same forest type as the west side of the preserve. Here we > came across some short but fat honey locust. The largest cbh was 10’8”. We > followed the stream, measuring a couple of fat sycamores along the way, > crossing the creek and up into the small ridge. Along this ridge is a huge > common hackberry( I made an earlier post about this tree). It measures > 12’3” x 114.2 which makes it a new northeast height record. I measured one > or two more trees before getting back to the truck. Another great day in > the woods! > > > > Here are the measurements for Cedar Hollow Preserve. > > > > Site Index > > Species CBH Height > > A Beech 2’11” 80.7 > > Bitternut Hickory 8’2” 99.9 > > Bitternut Hickory 6’9” 114.4 > > Black Locust 7’10” 91.7 > > Black Locust 4’8” 101.5 > > Black Walnut 5’6” 106.4 > > Chinkapin Oak 7’1” 87.8 > > Common Hackberry 12’3” 114.2 > > Crack Willow(3x) 15’8” 68.9 > > E Red Cedar 6’1” 48.0 > > Green Ash? 6’5” 109.9 > > Honey Locust 5’1” 90.5 > > N Red Oak 10’11” 100.5 > > N Red Oak 6’5” 110.4 > > Norway Maple 3’8” 94.9 > > Sugar Maple 5’6” 96.3 > > Sweet Cherry 4’5” 82.0 > > Sycamore 9’3” 121.9 > > Tulip Poplar 10’8” 124.5 > > Tulip Poplar 9’8” 134.0 > > White Oak N/A 91.4 > > > > Rucker Index > > Species CBH Height > > Tulip Poplar 9’8” 134.0 > > Sycamore 9’3” 121.9 > > Bitternut Hickory 6’9” 114.4 > > Common Hackberry 12’3” 114.2 > > N Red Oak 6’5” 110.4 > > Green Ash? 6’5” 109.9 > > Black Walnut 5’6” 106.4 > > Black Locust 4’8” 101.5 > > Sugar Maple 5’6” 96.3 > > Norway Maple 3’8” 94.9 > > RI 110.39 > > > > Here is a list of 12 x 100’s for the site. > > > > Species CBH Height > > Common Hackberry 12’3” 114.2 > > Sycamore 14’1” 102.6 > > Sycamore 19’5” 107.2 > > Sycamore 14’2” 121.5 > > > > The other sycamore to measure more than 14’ and just shy of 100’ is 17’2” x > 98.4. > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
