Thanks, Don,

No, I don't have pictures, but it's likely we'll see a video of an old
ancient "yellow pine" at the ENTS Rendezvous at Cook Forest here next
weekend.

Dale

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM, DON BERTOLETTE <[email protected]>wrote:

> Dale-
> Some partial help here...you are exactly on the crux of why 'common names'
> aren't reliable.  Regional variations in 'local nomenclature' are remarkably
> intransient...even in today's age of multi-threaded communications systems.
>
> I'll not weigh in on Penn. woods, as I'm not knowledgeable there.
>
> But I can tell you that much of the West (west of Rockies) refers to Pinus
> ponderosa as a yellow pine, particularly in its mature phase. Its bark
> retains a darker pigmentation until age and size causes the bark to 'plate
> out', exposing large yellow to gold (and with hybridization with
> Jeffrey pine) to red-brown platy bark, and darker furrows...these plates can
> be a foot across and 2-3 foot tall on larger trees.  And per recent posts,
> they have a very pleasant aroma when sniffed up close.
>
> Do you have pictures?
> -don
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:42:05 -0400
> Subject: [ENTS] "yellow" pine
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
>
> ENTS,
>
> I often have folks ask about "yellow" pine at Cook Forest.  I'm not
> entirely sure what exact species they're talking about.  They often think
> that "yellow" pine is it's own species.  A quick search of the term on the
> internet suggests the term "yellow" pine is often made towards a group of
> pine in the genus *Pinus*, but doesn't give an official name, kind of like
> calling any pine found, "yellow" pine.
>
> I'm thinking that they're most likely either talking about the park's pitch
> pine, or possibly more likely... a fond nickname for the ancient large old
> growth pine found here.
>
> Can anyone clear this up for me?  These folks even go far back as claiming
> it as an old forestry term used to describe pine, but they still can't
> distinguish an actual species.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dale
>
> >
>

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