Dale:
The Virginia pine is just a few miles away from where I live.? As soon as the brush dies down a little more I'll go back and try for a more accurate measurement. Russ -----Original Message----- From: Dale Luthringer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:50 am Subject: [ENTS] Re: "yellow" pine Thanks, Russ, ? A 6'5" CBH Virginia pine, would most likely be a new state champ for PA, but we've got very few in our database.? I don't know of any natural Virginia pine up near Cook Forest's latitude, but down in SE PA, or near the Maryland border, some can be found. ? Dale On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: Dale: ? In portions of West Virginia where there are scattered native shortleaf pine they are pretty much universally called yellow pine.? There is no different name for white pine and Virginia pine is sometimes called? field pine.??? People often recognize?pitch pine because of the epicormic sprouts but the one that always surprised me was that shortleaf pine has longer needles than any pine I spent most of my life working with or around....but it was still called "shortleaf".?? ? An old procurement forester for WestVaco once told me that yellow pine was one of their preferred species and when I inquired as to exactly what he meant by "yellow pine" and he went into a lot of detail into shortleaf pine and its utility.? ? The majority of the shortleaf pine trees I encounter are fairly large and quite old and highly scattered....I don't know the last time I saw a native shortleaf seedling or sapling.? ? A little while ago I encountered a Virginia pine that was over 6.5' CBH....is?that at?all significant? ? Russ? -----Original Message----- From: Dale Luthringer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Sep 18, 2009 2:42 pm Subject: [ENTS] "yellow" pine ENTS, ? I often have folks ask about "yellow" pine at Cook Forest.? I'm not entirely sure what exact species they're talking about.? They often think that "yellow" pine is it's own species.? A quick search of the term on the internet suggests the term "yellow" pine is often made towards a group of pine in the genus Pinus, but doesn't give an official name, kind of like calling any pine found, "yellow" pine.? ? I'm thinking that they're most likely either talking about the park's pitch pine, or possibly more likely... a fond nickname for the ancient large old growth pine found here. ? Can anyone clear this up for me?? These folks even go far back as claiming it as an old forestry term used to describe pine, but they still can't distinguish an actual species. ? Thanks, ? Dale --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
