Very good,

It's always a treat to hear what West Virgninia has in terms of big trees.

Dale


On 9/23/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dale:
>
> The Virginia pine is just a few miles away from where I live.  As soon as
> the brush dies down a little more I'll go back and try for a more accurate
> measurement.
>
> Russ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dale Luthringer <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:50 am
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: "yellow" pine
>
>
>  Thanks, Russ,
>
> A 6'5" CBH Virginia pine, would most likely be a new state champ for PA,
> but we've got very few in our database.  I don't know of any natural
> Virginia pine up near Cook Forest's latitude, but down in SE PA, or near the
> Maryland border, some can be found.
>
> Dale
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dale:
>>
>> In portions of West Virginia where there are scattered native shortleaf
>> pine they are pretty much universally called yellow pine.  There is no
>> different name for white pine and Virginia pine is sometimes called  field
>> pine.    People often recognize pitch pine because of the epicormic sprouts
>> but the one that always surprised me was that shortleaf pine has longer
>> needles than any pine I spent most of my life working with or around....but
>> it was still called "shortleaf".
>>
>> An old procurement forester for WestVaco once told me that yellow pine was
>> one of their preferred species and when I inquired as to exactly what he
>> meant by "yellow pine" and he went into a lot of detail into shortleaf pine
>> and its utility.
>>
>> The majority of the shortleaf pine trees I encounter are fairly large and
>> quite old and highly scattered....I don't know the last time I saw a native
>> shortleaf seedling or sapling.
>>
>> A little while ago I encountered a Virginia pine that was over 6.5'
>> CBH....is that at all significant?
>>
>> Russ
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dale Luthringer <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Fri, Sep 18, 2009 2:42 pm
>> Subject: [ENTS] "yellow" pine
>>
>>
>>   ENTS,
>>
>> I often have folks ask about "yellow" pine at Cook Forest.  I'm not
>> entirely sure what exact species they're talking about.  They often think
>> that "yellow" pine is it's own species.  A quick search of the term on the
>> internet suggests the term "yellow" pine is often made towards a group of
>> pine in the genus *Pinus*, but doesn't give an official name, kind of
>> like calling any pine found, "yellow" pine.
>>
>> I'm thinking that they're most likely either talking about the park's
>> pitch pine, or possibly more likely... a fond nickname for the ancient large
>> old growth pine found here.
>>
>> Can anyone clear this up for me?  These folks even go far back as claiming
>> it as an old forestry term used to describe pine, but they still can't
>> distinguish an actual species.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dale
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
> >
>

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