I'll also add my voice to the call for holding a meeting near a special longleaf pine site. I just finished a silviculture instructor's tour of southern Georgia and northern Florida, and we stopped at Greenwood Plantation to hear about the Stoddard-Neal system of management in longleaf. The Greenwood Plantation is one of those classic southern quail hunting plantations, and the management is geared towards keeping the quail hunting as good as possible. I would also suggest spending some time on the Jones Ecological Research Center, also in southern Georgia, where a broader range of longleaf pine management/restoration is being practiced. Not the old-growth that you still see at Greenwood, but a maturing second-growth with a lot more active management.
This part of the world also has a lot of live oaks, including some pretty big ones, and a lot of other neat species (spruce pine, sand pine, Florida torreya, etc.). Don Bragg -----Original Message----- From: neil <[email protected]> To: ENTSTrees <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:08 pm Subject: [ENTS] Re: 2 amazing species- Redwoods and Longleaf pine ENTS, I second Eli's call on visiting/holding a conference near a special ongleaf pine ecosystem. Greenwood Plantation ("Big Woods") is jaw- ropping, especially when you learn that it has been actively managed or more than 50 yrs, even for ENTS'ers. I just got back from a 5-day field trip with my forest ecology class o the Carolina Sandhills and two longleaf pine heritage preserves in outh Carolina. Longleaf pine is an amazing species. One manager alled it the most stubborn tree he knows. He meant this as a tree hat will survive almost anywhere and many conditions. We visited the arolina Sandhills National Wildlife Refuge, a more-xeric ecosystem, nd then the Lynchburg Longleaf Pine Heritage Preserve, which is a wet- avanna. At Lynchburg longleaf grows adjacent to pond cypress and even as pitcher plants tickling it's toes. A grad student at Virginia Tech s studying montane longleaf pine, ecosystems living in the lower mtns f Alabama and western GA. It is an amazingly diverse, beautiful and daptable tree. I'll upload pix of Carolina Sandhills and Lynchburg to he ENTS web page. ENTS would not do wrong by making a gathering in/near a longleaf pine cosystem. neil On Oct 14, 9:13 am, Eli Dickerson <[email protected]> wrote: We should consider having ENTS visiting some longleaf sites in the future. 've talked with the property managers for the Wade Tract and Greenwood lantation ("Big Woods") and they both sounded like they would consider roviding guided tours. They are very protective of these areas and nderstandably so. I'm also quite sure some of the trees in these stands near Thomasville, GA are UCH older than 150 years. Also, you might enjoy this:http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/eliahd24/tree%20explorations/?... ~Eli --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Larry <[email protected]> wrote: From: Larry <[email protected]> Subject: [ENTS] Re: 2 amazing species- Redwoods and Longleaf pine To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 5:43 AM Eli, I really liked you photos! I was trying to guess on how old these LL trees were. One of my favorite trees since I was a kid. Living in South Ms., we see these less and less but there are still remaining stands in South Ms, South Ala, South Ga., Northwest Fla., the Carolinas, etc. I've seen some around 125 years old but none in the 200-300 year old class. As for heights the tallest I've seen are just over 80', the may have reached 100'+ in the old Forests. Some may exsist but they would be far and few between, unfortunately. Will Fell would know more about this species than I. Will, how old would the Wade Tract be? 100-150? A link to the Wade Tract.http://www.talltimbers.org/wadetract.html A discussion we had on LL back in 08.http://www.nativetreesociety.org/species/sp_gallery/longleaf/longleaf... Larry -~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ astern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org end email to [email protected] isit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en o unsubscribe send email to [email protected] ~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
