Looking closer at the map, there is a notable outline of the north side of the Big Bend in the Allegheny River. So maybe the soil is not so great there for cucumber magnolias. Where the glacier terminated in Cattaraugus County. In the vicinity of Salamanca.
Bob, I don't remember hearing that before, so I don't know if it's true. However, the attached distribution map I found online seems to indicate otherwise (showing range into NYS all the way to Lake Ontario). On the other hand, the Allegheny NF & environs does seem to be a good home for cucumber magnolia anecdotally speaking. There are a lot of them here and some of them are large, so they seem to like it here. (They are one of my favorites.) Kirk Kirk, I was once told by a forest ecologist from Vermont that the cucumber magnolia appears south of the glaciated zone in western NY-PA, but not in it. I presume there isn't a sharp line of demarcation, but practically so. Is this explanation for the distribution of cucumber magnolia still in vogue? Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Johnson" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 11:32:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [ENTS] Re: King Pennisula, Allegheny River, Forest County, PA Bob, That is true. To the west of the Allegheny River and to the east of the Big Level was glaciated. But what is today Allegany State Park in NY and the Allegheny NF was not glaciated. Kirk Johnson Ed, I am jealous. The Connecticut River corridor has some fine trees, but the Allegheny River has sycamores and silver maples that exceed any I've found along the Connecticut. If I remember correctly, the area of the Allegheny in PA wasn't glaciated. Is that correct? Bob --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
