>From my trip to Big Oak Tree State Park in 2005, I had the following 
>measurements of their champions:

Bur Oak:  Their measurement:  142 ft  My sine height measurement: 116.7 ft
Pumpkin Ash:  Their measurement:  150 ft  My sine height measurement:  102.8 ft
Persimmon:  Their measurement:  133 ft  My sine height measurement:  118.2 ft

Today's heights may be even less--they've have a few ice storms in the area 
since I was there in 2005.  The pumpkin ash was particularly problematic, as it 
had a widely spreading crown, even though it was a forest-grown tree (you could 
see how a misapplied tangent method would cause problems with this specimen).  
The bur oak and persimmon were straighter trees, but still subject to tangent 
measurement errors.

Having said that, Big Oak Tree State Park is a cool place to go see big trees!  
Well worth the stop for anyone driving through the area...

Don Bragg


-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Koebel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 7:53 am
Subject: Re: [ENTS] Big Oak Tree State Park and Wisconsin Trip


Bob,
I didn't say it was.  I wrote the Missouri Big Tree web site had it listed as 
such.  I think that I got somewhere around 100-125.  The persimmon isn't as 
tall has they have it listed either.  I am currently trying to get the DOC to 
correct it but you know how that goes.
Beth

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On Nov 19, 2009, at 7:22, [email protected] wrote:




Beth


No way that Pumpkin Ash is even remotely close to 150. I measured that tree a 
number of years ago. I can't remember what the height was, but much less than 
150.


Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth Koebel" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:15:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [ENTS] Big Oak Tree State Park and Wisconsin Trip




Larry,
 
I don't know if you will see this before you get to Big Oak Tree State Park or 
not but I thought I would send it anyway just in case.  I am working else I 
could meet you there.  From what I remember and find on the web there are four 
champs located there.  As you come down the road turn into the first parking 
area.  This will have picnic tables and swings for the kids.  As you are you 
standing with your back towards the field across the road the persimmon is 
forward and to your left.  The Rusty Blackhaw (Viburmum rifidulum) is along the 
roadside to the right of the parking lot as you are leaving the park.  The Bald 
Cypress and Pumpkin Ash are located down the boardwalk.  To get to the 
boardwalk from the parking area with the persimmon take a left on the road and 
it will be on your right side.  They have built a little info booth at the 
beginning of it.
 
What the Missouri Champion Tree list has for measurments are as follows:
 
Pumpkin Ash (National Champ)
188" cbh  150' height  77' crown
 
Bald Cypress
306" cbh  123' height  84' crown
 
Rusty Blackhaw
43" cbh  28' height  25' crown
 
Persimmon
93" cbh  124' height  40' crown
 
Beth

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