Ed- I think I agree with you...from my perspective in the SW, I've had occasion to map all archeological sites captured in a 10 meter grid across an entire National Monument. THere were so many sites, that I had to separate categories, and place them on three different maps (we're talking 3' x 4' maps) so that the 7 font print didn't obliterate others.
One could say blithely that there was an enormous population of Native Americans occupying this area...the thing about accumulated evidence is that in this case these sites accumulated over millenia, and at any one given time, the populations were sparse. And as hunter gatherers, their transient occupation of any given area was seasonal. So when Bob suggests that evidence of coastal indigenous cultures in the upper Connecticut River Valley was scant, that's pretty telling...with such a broad period of potential occupation, to have 'scant' current evidence suggests minimal impact. -Don From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENTS] Historic eastern forest stature Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:23:02 -0500 Jon, I don't really think that most native American utilization had landscape scale impacts as took place with the farming and timbering activities after European settlement. Perhaps some of the Mound Builder cultures with large earthworks and agricultural base had greater impacts, but still I doubt they were on the scale of what took place in the 1800's to 1900's, Maybe on a local scale, but not a broad scale. I do not doubt that there were small patches that were managed by fire by native Americans all across the eastern US, or that perhaps some other management took place on a scattered basis, but these were small impacts compared to the scale of the forests themselves. I can even believe that disease could have decimated the populations of native Americans shortly after the arrival of European settlers and explorers. The idea of large scale forest management is different story. I think it is a just a romantic notion that these forests were being managed in any significant scale prior to European settlement. It is a good story, with the proper liberal political sentiment, but it just is not true. There is no reasonable archaeological evidence that any large scale forest management was being done in these forest. There was a strange fad running in the archaeological circles when was in college. It was the idea of relativism - that any interpretation of archaeological evidence is based upon the viewpoint of the person making the interpretation. There was no objective reality as everything was relative. The only thing that was important was the why, and by this philosophy that could not be known. Therefore all interpretations were equally valid. As a physical scientist (with a minor in archaeology) I can say without any qualms "What a load of crap!" This is perhaps one of the sources of the idea of larger scale native American managed forest scenarios in several popular books. Things actually happened or did not happen and these events left evidence. We try to interpret what this evidence to the best of our ability to try figure out what actually happened.. We may not get the interpretations exactly right, but certainly some ideas are better interpretations of the past than others. You can not prove beyond a shadow of doubt that some of these fanciful interpretations are wrong, but you certainly can say they are extremely unlikely to be correct. Ed Frank Check out my new Blog: http://nature-web-network.blogspot.com/ (and click on some of the ads) -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
