Bob, It's not likely we can get out to Green Lakes this year as I don't have a car (the North Syracuse oak groves are walking distance from where I live) and the brutal central NY winter is about to set in. It soon will be snowing every day and we often get over 150" snow a year. Green Lakes is a fantastic place and in the spring I'd like to get out there - there's a lot more to measure there in 1000 acres of old growth with Tuliptrees you found to be over 144 ft. tall in 2002, Bitternut Hickory 135 ft. tall, possibly thousands of Sugar Maples over 200 years old and over 110 ft. tall, Basswoods that could be 120 ft. + and more including Hemlocks over 300 years old. But I think it will have to wait till spring, in that short window of time between winter and leaf out (and the onset of Lyme Disease season - a serious problem at Green Lakes due to excessive deer population). If the winter is mild maybe we can get out there this winter but that's not likely in our dreary central NY climate. Sassafras is one of my favorite trees, and is rare in central NY but North Syracuse has an isolated population of Sassafras with the largest trees 20"+ dbh and up to 75 ft. tall, and up to possibly 150 years old; North Syracuse also has isolated populations of Black Gum (very common in the village here but rare elsewhere - oldest Black Gums are est. 240+ years old - oldest could be Anne Frank Tree in Wizard of Oz Oak Grove and the hollow twisted balding Tree #34 in Cemetery Oak Grove) and Black Oak - common here but very rare elsewhere in central NY. Tom Howard _________________________________________________________________ Get gifts for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=xbox+games&scope=cashback&form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_Shopping_Giftsforthem_cashback_1x1
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