Beth,

You will find that on windy days, your temperatures may be close to nearby
official observations, but on calm days you may vary by over 10 degrees,
especially on cold winter nights.  On cold, calm, clear nights, I've noted
over 1 degree Fahrenheit per foot difference in elevation between my front
yard and back yard.  The NWS uses a wooden "cotton region" shelter setup to
meet certain requirements.  The shelter reduces thermal radiation to space
so that the official temperatures are not as low as an outdoor thermometer
out in the open away from buildings.  I've wondered how this standardization
affects long term weather observations the are used to support short-term
climate change discussions.  Often, weather stations that were rural have
had cities grow up around them, their locations moved, or changed the
mounting to the shelter, and sometimes correction factors are applied to
historical data to attempt to provide "synchronization" with the old
setup...

Good article on extreme lows in the Midwest:
http://ams.allenpress.com/archive/1520-0477/78/1/pdf/i1520-0477-78-1-35.pdf

Paul

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Beth Koebel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bob,
> I think that NOAA is better at attaining the correct temperture readings
> verses the American Forestry does at attaining correct tree measurements.
>
> On the other hand, it is so much fun gathering the infomation yourself and
> then playing with the data. I am hoping to have a personal weather station
> in my yard by the end of next year.
> Beth
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 21, 2009, at 11:11, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Beth,
>
> Weather extremes have always interested me. One reason its that they tell
> me where I might not want to go, or live. As a statistics nut, I'm always
> looking for the extremes and from them tend to fill in the means. January is
> the traditional coldest month. So it is the one I've chosen to closely
> monitor. Why don't I just wait until the end of the month and look at
> summary data from NOAA? Good question.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth Koebel" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>[email protected]
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:02:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [ENTS] Nation's Low Temperture
>
> Bob,
> Thank you for the info. A drinking buddy of mind thought that Juneo, Alaska
> was cold. I tried to tell her about the Japaness Current (aka the Gulf
> Stream of the Pacific).  But alas, she wouldn't believe me.
> Beth
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 21, 2009, at 10:32, <[email protected]>[email protected] wrote:
>
> Beth,
>
> I thought you'd never ask. I don't know the answer to that question, but
> here are some temperatures from traditional cold spots and some of my
> favored haunts around the U.S. (lower 48. Don's neck of the woods doesn't
> count.). I'm going to confer with Ernie about the traditional cold spots and
> track them in earnest starting in January.
>
> Bob
>
>
>   Station State Current temp       Florence MA 29  Charlemont MA 22  Shelburne
> Falls MA 25  Chester MA 24  Thetford VT 21  Berlin NH 12  Claremont NH 24  
> Mount
> Washington NH 7  Caribou ME 19  Embarrass MN 20  Tower MN 20  Ely MN 18
> Stanley ID 31  Pocatello ID 36  West Yellowstone MT 30  Pinedale WY 19  Big
> Piney WY 15  Jackson WY 35  Riverton WY 27  Alamosa CO 14  Maybell CO 3
> Fraser CO 26  Durango CO 27  Hunter NY 24  Lake Placid NY 32  Devils Lake
> ND 4  Elko NV 12                                       Maybell CO 3
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth" < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
> To: "ENTSTrees" < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:48:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [ENTS] Nation's Low Temperture
>
> Bob, Lee, Erinie, ENTS,
> what was the low temperture for the US this morning?
> Beth
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