James,

 

Jess and I spent a few hours in this grove a few years back. It is very
impressive! I'll post my measurements when I dig them up. I am currently
entering my tree measurement data from years past. Ugh, I know, lame. A bit
behind.

 

Will F. Blozan

President, Eastern Native Tree Society

President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.

 

"No sympathy for apathy"

  _____  

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of James Parton
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:35 AM
To: ENTS
Subject: [ENTS] The Ramble Grove_Asheville NC

 


ENTS,

 

Today I finally got back to do some measuring of a nice White Pine grove
that I found while on another hike back in January 2009. The grove is
located between the Blue Ridge Parkway and Hendersonville Rd ( Hwy 25 ) near
where the parkway crosses over 25. I call it the Ramble Grove because of the
nearby Ramble housing development located nearby.

 

 
http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/north_carolina/20090125-blueridg
eparkway/mountainstosea_trail.htm

 

The grove is dominated by Eastern White Pine but also contains Tuliptree and
Pitch Pine with American Holly as an understory tree. A few oaks and
shortleaf pines are found here too, especially near the borders of the
grove. Large Poison Ivy vines also climb to great heights into the trees. I
found one huge vine that was two feet in circumference! Why do some forests
have large Poison Ivy vines while others lack Poison Ivy all together?
Poison Ivy seems rare in most older growth forests I visit while it seems
more common in younger forests. Especially near populated areas. Does anyone
know why?  I would guess this grove to be young judging by the trees
youthful appearance and many branch stubs on the trunks of the pines. I
would guess the grove at 60-80 years old.

 

The tallest tree found today was a respectable White Pine that was 143..2
feet tall and 6' 3" in girth. Tall and slim. The largest overall was a
Tuliptree that was 138.3 feet tall and 8' 9" in girth. 

 

Also a hollylike plant was found in the forest that I believe is an invasive
species. Can anyone identify this " mystery holly " for me? I have seen it
as an ornamental in people's yards. I think my dad has one.. I don't think
it is a true ilex.

 

Here are todays measurements

 

                                        cbh              Height

 

White Pine                        6' 3"             130.3'

 

White Pine                        8' 0"             122.6'

 

White Pine                        6' 2"             136.5'

 

Tuliptree                           8' 9"              138.3'

 

White Pine                       6' 3"              143.2' !

 

Pitch Pine                        5' 6"               114.3' !

 

 

It was a good day but my hands were about frozen when I got out of the
woods!

 

 

James Parton

 

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