Will,

That's cool!  That grove does catch your eye doesn't it?  I measured
only a handful of trees before a cold sunset. I am curious to what you
found. I was hoping for a 150 class pine but did not quite get there.
The stand seems pretty even-aged and may not have a 150.

I got cabin fever from hell and it's too damn cold outside!
Waaaaa..............

I know, quit whining and grab the warm clothes. ~laughing~!


James P.


On Jan 2, 11:02 am, "Will Blozan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> James,
>
> Jess and I spent a few hours in this grove a few years back. It is very
> impressive! I'll post my measurements when I dig them up. I am currently
> entering my tree measurement data from years past. Ugh, I know, lame. A bit
> behind.
>
> Will F. Blozan
>
> President, Eastern Native Tree Society
>
> President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.
>
> "No sympathy for apathy"
>
>   _____  
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of James Parton
> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:35 AM
> To: ENTS
> Subject: [ENTS] The Ramble Grove_Asheville NC
>
> ENTS,
>
> Today I finally got back to do some measuring of a nice White Pine grove
> that I found while on another hike back in January 2009. The grove is
> located between the Blue Ridge Parkway and Hendersonville Rd ( Hwy 25 ) near
> where the parkway crosses over 25. I call it the Ramble Grove because of the
> nearby Ramble housing development located nearby.
>
> http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/north_carolina/20090125-b...
> eparkway/mountainstosea_trail.htm
>
> The grove is dominated by Eastern White Pine but also contains Tuliptree and
> Pitch Pine with American Holly as an understory tree. A few oaks and
> shortleaf pines are found here too, especially near the borders of the
> grove. Large Poison Ivy vines also climb to great heights into the trees. I
> found one huge vine that was two feet in circumference! Why do some forests
> have large Poison Ivy vines while others lack Poison Ivy all together?
> Poison Ivy seems rare in most older growth forests I visit while it seems
> more common in younger forests. Especially near populated areas. Does anyone
> know why?  I would guess this grove to be young judging by the trees
> youthful appearance and many branch stubs on the trunks of the pines. I
> would guess the grove at 60-80 years old.
>
> The tallest tree found today was a respectable White Pine that was 143..2
> feet tall and 6' 3" in girth. Tall and slim. The largest overall was a
> Tuliptree that was 138.3 feet tall and 8' 9" in girth.
>
> Also a hollylike plant was found in the forest that I believe is an invasive
> species. Can anyone identify this " mystery holly " for me? I have seen it
> as an ornamental in people's yards. I think my dad has one.. I don't think
> it is a true ilex.
>
> Here are todays measurements
>
>                                         cbh              Height
>
> White Pine                        6' 3"             130.3'
>
> White Pine                        8' 0"             122.6'
>
> White Pine                        6' 2"             136.5'
>
> Tuliptree                           8' 9"              138.3'
>
> White Pine                       6' 3"              143.2' !
>
> Pitch Pine                        5' 6"               114.3' !
>
> It was a good day but my hands were about frozen when I got out of the
> woods!
>
> James Parton
>
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