Paul,

Thanks for the advice!  There is forests to visit even if it is cold
outside.

JP

On Jan 2, 1:55 pm, "Paul Jost" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Keep your core warm and the fingers can be exposed longer. Most people
> bundle their feet and abdomen and forget about their legs.  You must
> insulate them as well.  A pair of jeans is not going to do it.  Always wear
> a cap, as thick as is needed for the weather.  And don't forget warmer socks
> and a scarf wrapped to cover the chin and entire neck fairly snugly.  It's
> amazing how poorly modern urban man dresses for cold weather.  Also, glove
> liners under fingerless glove-mitts work well.  They are fingerless gloves
> that have hinged mitten ends on them to cover your fingertips most of the
> time, but expose them briefly when you need to use them.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Parton" <[email protected]>
> To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:26 AM
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: The Ramble Grove_Asheville NC
>
> Bob,
>
> I was hoping for an outing tomorrow, but cold hands may be a real
> problem. How do northern ents cope? That button on the Nikon 440 is
> too small to use adequately with heavily gloved hands and try writing
> down data with heavy gloves on. I have learned that pulling off your
> gloves, even for a short time is not usually a good idea!
>
> James.
>
> On Jan 2, 8:20 am, Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> > James
>
> > Good job. I sympathize with you on the freezing hands problem.
> > That was what curtailed my tree measuring in Montpelier.
>
> > Bob
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:35 AM, James Parton <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > ENTS,
>
> > > Today I finally got back to do some measuring of a nice White Pine
> > > grove that I found while on another hike back in January 2009. The
> > > grove is located between the Blue Ridge Parkway and Hendersonville
> > > Rd ( Hwy 25 ) near where the parkway crosses over 25. I call it the
> > > Ramble Grove because of the nearby Ramble housing development
> > > located nearby.
>
> > >http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/north_carolina/20090125-b...
>
> > > The grove is dominated by Eastern White Pine but also contains
> > > Tuliptree and Pitch Pine with American Holly as an understory tree.
> > > A few oaks and shortleaf pines are found here too, especially near
> > > the borders of the grove. Large Poison Ivy vines also climb to great
> > > heights into the trees. I found one huge vine that was two feet in
> > > circumference! Why do some forests have large Poison Ivy vines while
> > > others lack Poison Ivy all together? Poison Ivy seems rare in most
> > > older growth forests I visit while it seems more common in younger
> > > forests. Especially near populated areas. Does anyone know why? I
> > > would guess this grove to be young judging by the trees youthful
> > > appearance and many branch stubs on the trunks of the pines. I would
> > > guess the grove at 60-80 years old.
>
> > > The tallest tree found today was a respectable White Pine that was
> > > 143..2 feet tall and 6' 3" in girth. Tall and slim. The largest
> > > overall was a Tuliptree that was 138.3 feet tall and 8' 9" in girth.
>
> > > Also a hollylike plant was found in the forest that I believe is an
> > > invasive species. Can anyone identify this " mystery holly " for me?
> > > I have seen it as an ornamental in people's yards. I think my dad
> > > has one.. I don't think it is a true ilex.
>
> > > Here are todays measurements
>
> > > cbh Height
>
> > > White Pine 6' 3" 130.3'
>
> > > White Pine 8' 0" 122.6'
>
> > > White Pine 6' 2" 136.5'
>
> > > Tuliptree 8' 9" 138.3'
>
> > > White Pine 6' 3" 143.2' !
>
> > > Pitch Pine 5' 6" 114.3' !
>
> > > It was a good day but my hands were about frozen when I got out of
> > > the woods!
>
> > > James Parton
>
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