Bob:

Yes, keeping electronic instruments under your coat is pretty much 
necessary when its below zero. However, I don't do field work on days 
when the high is predicted to be below zero. Its just not an efficient 
use of time. 0-10 degrees is my minimum for field work, although I do 
recreational activities at colder temperatures.

Lee

[email protected] wrote:
> James,
>
> Well, north is relative. At my latitude, we grab opportunities when 
> they arise and just limit our exposure, time wise. Farther north, in 
> Lee's neck of the woods, I think measuring gets suspended entirely. He 
> and Paul will have to confirm that observation, but trying to get a 
> laser to work in sub-zero is not a smart idea. Maybe they have 
> techniques like keeping the laser inside a garment next to the body, 
> whipping it out, taking a quick shot and submerging it again.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Parton" <[email protected]>
> To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2010 9:26:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [ENTS] Re: The Ramble Grove_Asheville NC
>
> Bob,
>
> I was hoping for an outing tomorrow, but cold hands may be a real
> problem. How do northern ents cope? That button on the Nikon 440 is
> too small to use adequately with heavily gloved hands and try writing
> down data with heavy gloves on. I have learned that pulling off your
> gloves, even for a short time is not usually a good idea!
>
> James.
>
>
> On Jan 2, 8:20 am, Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> > James
> >
> >      Good job. I sympathize with you on the freezing hands problem.  
> > That was what curtailed my tree measuring in Montpelier.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:35 AM, James Parton <[email protected]>  
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > ENTS,
> >
> > > Today I finally got back to do some measuring of a nice White Pine  
> > > grove that I found while on another hike back in January 2009. The  
> > > grove is located between the Blue Ridge Parkway and Hendersonville  
> > > Rd ( Hwy 25 ) near where the parkway crosses over 25. I call it the  
> > > Ramble Grove because of the nearby Ramble housing development  
> > > located nearby.
> >
> > > 
>  http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/north_carolina/20090125-b...
> >
> > > The grove is dominated by Eastern White Pine but also contains  
> > > Tuliptree and Pitch Pine with American Holly as an understory tree.  
> > > A few oaks and shortleaf pines are found here too, especially near  
> > > the borders of the grove. Large Poison Ivy vines also climb to great  
> > > heights into the trees. I found one huge vine that was two feet in  
> > > circumference! Why do some forests have large Poison Ivy vines while  
> > > others lack Poison Ivy all together? Poison Ivy seems rare in most  
> > > older growth forests I visit while it seems more common in younger  
> > > forests. Especially near populated areas. Does anyone know why?  I  
> > > would guess this grove to be young judging by the trees youthful  
> > > appearance and many branch stubs on the trunks of the pines. I would  
> > > guess the grove at 60-80 years old.
> >
> > > The tallest tree found today was a respectable White Pine that was  
> > > 143..2 feet tall and 6' 3" in girth. Tall and slim. The largest  
> > > overall was a Tuliptree that was 138.3 feet tall and 8' 9" in girth.
> >
> > > Also a hollylike plant was found in the forest that I believe is an  
> > > invasive species. Can anyone identify this " mystery holly " for me?  
> > > I have seen it as an ornamental in people's yards. I think my dad  
> > > has one.. I don't think it is a true ilex.
> >
> > > Here are todays measurements
> >
> > >                                         cbh              Height
> >
> > > White Pine                        6' 3"             130.3'
> >
> > > White Pine                        8' 0"             122.6'
> >
> > > White Pine                        6' 2"             136.5'
> >
> > > Tuliptree                           8' 9"              138.3'
> >
> > > White Pine                       6' 3"              143.2' !
> >
> > > Pitch Pine                        5' 6"               114.3' !
> >
> > > It was a good day but my hands were about frozen when I got out of  
> > > the woods!
> >
> > > James Parton
> >
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> > > <Ramble_ Woods.jpg>
> > > <Ramble_Grove.JPG>
> > > <Poison_Ivy.JPG>
> > > <Mystery_Holly.JPG>
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