Bob: I suppose you can have emeritus status in the freezer club, since you get kicked out from active status if you go 10 years without experiencing temperatures of -40 or lower.
Lee [email protected] wrote: > Lee , > > I have experienced temperatures of -44 degrees Fahrenheit in North > Dakota. So, I consider myself part of the Freezer Club, but prefer an > emeritus status in terms of needing to repeat the experience. Will you > kindly grant me that status? > > Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee Frelich" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 1:05:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [ENTS] Cold is good > > Russ: > > Yes, definitely it cools suddenly in the forest around 3:30 in the > afternoon during winter. Any solar radiation you may have been getting > disappears at the same time as the air temperature drops. Two of my > friends were winter camping in boreal forests of the boundary waters a > few years ago, and at 4:00, the temperature had dropped to the bottom of > their thermometer (-40). Because it was clear with very light northerly > winds, they figured that it was best to get out of the woods and go > into town. Its a good thing they did because to got down to -54 that > night and their equipment was only rated for -40. > > Another time I was filming a piece on global warming in January in the > boundary waters for channel 4 (Minneapolis CBS TV station), at about > 3:30 pm. We were showing red maple saplings invading the boreal forest, > and trying to look like we weren't freezing while talking about a warmer > climate, but the temperature cooling you mentioned was just setting in, > and for sake of continuity, we couldn't change the coats we had on > eariler. After two takes of one scene, the producer said, "could you do > that again like you just did, but use 10% fewer words?". Somehow we > managed to do it just like the producer wanted so we could be excused > and hike back to the car. You can see the resulting story, both written > and video versions at the TV station's website: > http://wcco.com/topstories/global.warming.Northwoods.2.365546.html > > Also, a bunch of other stories about fires, storms, invasive insects, > etc. impacts on forests in MN: > http://wcco.com/search?searchstring=Frelich&tabid=0 > > Lee > > > [email protected] wrote: > > Paul: > > > > I, like you very much enjoy extreme cold ....there is something > > perversely enjoyable about being outside at temps close to zero or > > below with a gentle wind that feels like a laser on your cheeks. As > > I've gotten older and reached the point where I am almost always > > working alone, I no longer go out for more than six or eight hours in > > the woods if the temperature isn't going to get above zero. > > > > I agree about layering and how you mix them is so incredibly > > important. The general availability of good mixed material boots like > > Sorels with removable felts makes many aspects of extreme weather much > > more enjoyable today than 30 or 40 years ago. > > > > I'd like to offer a tip for heavy physical effort and perspiration > > in extreme cold weather. In almost any circumstance where I am going > > to climb up a big mountain or expose myself to a substantial period of > > serious effort in very cold temperatures, I'll carry a spare T-shirt. > > At the point where I decide that the period of most severe effort has > > ended I will immediately stop in as calm a point as possible and strip > > down my top layers down to bare skin and take off the wettest > > bottommost layer of my shirts and completely dress back up with a dry > > shirt on the bottom. Such a change has always been refreshing > > and nearly always prevents me from developing a chill. Also, if I > > plan it carefully and I am able to make the wardrobe change before my > > body starts to recover from the strain of the climb and begin cooling > > off I have an extremely good chance of remaining comfortable at > > whatever the temperature is for several hours. > > > > One question, for everyone who spends a lot of time in the woods > > during the coldest part of winter....have you noticed that there is a > > time in the afternoon when something changes to make the air suddenly > > "feel" colder. In Western Massachusetts during January I > > usually found that time to be between 3:15 and 3:30 on the coldest > > days. Other people were the first to point this change out to me and > > it seems to be most readily noticeable in forested locations that are > > on north or east facing areas (out of any sun). > > > > Russ > > > > > > ---- > > d email to [email protected] > > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] > -- > Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org > Send email to [email protected] > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en > To unsubscribe send email to [email protected] -- Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org Send email to [email protected] Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en To unsubscribe send email to [email protected]
