Thomas,

I've ordered the book from Amazon and eagerly await its arrival. Ed
Frank posted a note about it on December 6th.

Also, I used to live in Toronto and spent many a day in High Park.
Never been to Lynndale though...


Mike



On Jan 3, 9:44 pm, Peter Aplin <[email protected]> wrote:
> H Tom
> I've never been to Backus Woods, but I've hiked through the Charles  
> Sauriol Forest across the concession road from Backus. I've never  
> seen such large Tulip, Beech and White Pines. It is a great place to  
> see many Carolinian species north of the border. As I live in  
> Toronto, I will go to Lynndale Park, its just up the road from where  
> I live!
> If you are in the Toronto area, check out Rattlesnake Point near  
> Milton. Its along the escarpment and has many very old and gnarly  
> Eastern White Cedars.
> Happy New Year
> Peter
> On 3-Jan-10, at 5:16 PM, thomas howard wrote:
>
> > ENTS,
>
> > I received the new book Ontario's Old-Growth Forests as a Christmas  
> > present. This book by Michael Henry and Peter Quinby is fabulous!  
> > it is filled with color photos of glorious old growth trees and  
> > forests, and there are detailed descriptions of over 50 old growth  
> > forests with photos of each site, maps of each site, age of oldest  
> > trees, forest type, and preservation status. The book is divided by  
> > forest regions with emphasis on the spectacular White Pine forests  
> > of Ontario, including Algonquin Provincial Park (where White Pine  
> > to 486 years old has been found), Temagami (where the largest old  
> > growth Eastern White Pine forests in the world remain). There is  
> > not much height information and the authors suggest ENTS methods.  
> > They refer to a White Pine 67 meters tall (about 220 ft.) in 1860,  
> > and to what could be Ontario's tallest trees today - White Pines 50  
> > meters tall (about 164 ft.) in Gillie's Grove west of Ottawa. Old  
> > growth oak savannas are also covered including Paradise Grove in  
> > Niagara-on-the-Lake and High Park in Toronto which I visited a week  
> > ago; also old growth Black Gum over 400 years old in Backus Woods  
> > near Lake Erie. There is a chapter with more wonderful photos of  
> > the ancient White Cedars of the Niagara Escarpment - these are  
> > Ontario's oldest trees and there is a photo of a tree that sprouted  
> > in A.D. 701! Also a White Cedar that died in A.D. 770 after living  
> > 1890 years! There is a great deal of information about how to  
> > recognize old growth, about salamanders, bats, etc. and other  
> > creatures that live in old growth forests, scientific, spiritual  
> > value of old growth, efforts to preserve Ontario's threatened old  
> > growth forests, essays about various values of old growth forests,  
> > and even an essay about a type of forest little heard about -  
> > boreal rain forest by Lake Superior. There is so much more,  
> > including detailed descriptions of species like Hemlock, White  
> > Pine, Red Pine in old growth settings. I highly recommend this book!
>
> > I've also examined some trees in Toronto, and I'm including a  
> > report about them here. I did not have the laser rangefinder with  
> > me. Lynndale Park is a park near where my brother lives in Toronto.
>
> > Lynndale Park, Toronto, Ont.  10/31/2009 and other Toronto sites  
> > Dec. 2009
>
> > Lynndale Park is a small neighborhood park in the Scarborough  
> > section of Toronto.
> > It is near Wood Glen Rd. off Kingston Rd. The main feature of this  
> > pleasant little park is a group of about 22 partly open-grown Red  
> > Oaks and White Oaks up to 50 ft. or a little more tall. The oaks  
> > seem to be about 80-100 years old.
>
> > Trees examined:
> > Red Oak             30.3” dbh
> > Red Oak             32.8” dbh  largest tree
> > White Oak           24” dbh  should be largest White Oak
> > Red Oak              32.5” dbh
> > White Oak            18.9” dbh average for White Oaks
>
> > I counted 12 Red Oaks and 10 White Oaks.
> > Near edges are large open-grown Silver Maples, and 2 big Black  
> > Locusts near Wood Glen Rd. entrance.  Black Locust 23.5” dbh.
> > Wildlife – Black Squirrels, common in all Toronto parks.
>
> > Toronto has a great many oaks in its neighborhoods, mainly Red Oaks  
> > with some White Oaks; these trees average 50-70 ft. tall and a few  
> > Red Oaks reach 4 ft. dbh.
> > All Oaks in these areas in eastern Toronto are second growth.
>
> > Large old growth Red Oaks and White Oaks are the dominant trees in  
> > Queens Park in downtown Toronto – these trees average over 4 ft.  
> > dbh and have open-grown form as they are remnants from old growth  
> > savanna. I counted about 170 rings on the stump of a giant Red Oak  
> > (stump radius over 30 in.).
>
> > High Park in western Toronto has a restored old growth Oak Savanna  
> > ecosystem with huge Black Oaks. On Dec. 26, 2009 Jack Howard and I  
> > visited High Park and examined the following:
> > Black Oak stump                        167 rings             30”  
> > radius
> > Black Oak cross-section            206 rings            12” radius  
> > – from well up in tree; remains of this fallen tree are next to a  
> > massive standing open-grown Black Oak over
> >             4 ft. dbh. The tree I examined like other fallen trees  
> > at High Park was most likely the victim of a storm. The stump of  
> > the tree with 206 rings was over
> >  50 % hollow and I could only count 103 rings on the nearly 40”  
> > radius stump.
> > Black Oak cross-section            164 rings            55” radius  
> > – this cross-section lying on
> >             top of a stump close to 6 ft. across, and near a huge  
> > standing Black Oak
> >             with massive spiral grain trunk and open grown form.
>
> > Tom Howard
>
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